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mikecam

Re: *WARNING* fellow window cleaners
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2011, 10:32:39 pm »
Seriously, what is the point of posting this photo?

What does it even show?

It is in bad taste and for what reason?

To get an opinion across.................

Using ladders involves a number of risks, assessing and understanding these risks alongside using correctly eliminates the risk of user error almost entirely.

Crossing the road is dangerous, riding a motorbike is dangerous, scuba diving is dangerous, shouting 'come on West Brom' in Wolverhampton is dangerous / suicidal  ::)



You're spot on, using ladders does involve a risk. However, cleaning them windows in the photograph can be done risk free. I guess thats the point he's making......why take the risk? I don't know for sure i'm just reading it like you.

Dave66

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Re: *WARNING* fellow window cleaners
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2011, 10:39:58 pm »
why risk your life when there are safe ways now...  :-\
plenty of cream...plenty of sugar!

poleman

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Re: *WARNING* fellow window cleaners
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2011, 10:47:52 pm »
wasnt this one of ocs staff,

Yes your right George, it was a contract they was doing in Hull for a high street bank! the chap had been on the floor for some time (Early start) before a passer by phoned for a ambulance!    


poleman

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Re: *WARNING* fellow window cleaners
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2011, 11:00:16 pm »
wasnt this one of ocs staff,

Yes your right George, it was a contract they was doing in Hull for a high street bank! the chap had been on the floor for some time (Early start) before a passer by phoned for a ambulance!    


always carry a mobile  ;)

I think your find he was unconscious and bleeding to dealth and was fighting for his live!


George P

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Re: *WARNING* fellow window cleaners
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2011, 11:03:08 pm »
we used to do an ocs site and knew the manageress realy well, we were cancelled as they said they were going to do them, i found it funny when she told me that someone from head office came to see her and he was realy exicted about wfp and explained for about half an hour the benefits of wfp when eventually she said to him thats the way we had been doing for about 2 years and wondered when ocs were going to catch up he was realy surprised and didnt know it had been out for so long, my wife used to work there and said the look on his face was priceless.  ;D ;D

christopher b

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Re: *WARNING* fellow window cleaners
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2011, 01:08:58 am »
largest ladders I use are class 1 5.5 triples, thats 48 foot extended.
even though all my ladders get a pre use and monthly check ( all tagged) when I'm up those my heart is in my mouth, even when they are top secured and I'm in a full harness with twin lanyards every movement is look, think, move !
and no I'm not cleaning windows at that height...

I have seen a lot of local Windy's using class 3 ladders, OK there light but not made for day to day use. I have seen them with sagging or bent rungs, foot rubbers missing and even bent or deformed stiles.
and they wonder why they have accidents!

OK say it might cost you a couple of hundred quid to replace some ladders but hey it costs more to bury you. ladders are at there safest when looked after, treated right and used right.

julius ilori

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Re: *WARNING* fellow window cleaners
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2011, 01:04:17 pm »
GOOD GRIEF!!!...WFP'ers give it a rest with the ladder thing. We all know you do not like using ladders,some of us prefer it, for all different reasons, JUST GET OVER IT!!!
MOAN MOAN MOAN SCARE TACTICS SCARE TACTICS MOAN MOAN.....IF WE WANT TO DO TRAD WE WILL ...NOW SHUT-UP.............................................................pleeeeeeze....sigh!!!!

A & J Owen Window Cleaning

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Re: *WARNING* fellow window cleaners
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2011, 05:18:48 pm »
anyone who does not take these precautions in the industry are fools mate they open themselves to injury

Richard Neal

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Re: *WARNING* fellow window cleaners
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2011, 09:55:59 pm »
Seriously, what is the point of posting this photo?

What does it even show?

It is in bad taste and for what reason?

To get an opinion across.................

Using ladders involves a number of risks, assessing and understanding these risks alongside using correctly eliminates the risk of user error almost entirely.



Crossing the road is dangerous, riding a motorbike is dangerous, scuba diving is dangerous, shouting 'come on West Brom' in Wolverhampton is dangerous / suicidal  ::)




Thats the last time i go scuba diving with my ladders, not worth the risk.
Im not scared of heights, just falling from them.
mrwindowclean@hotmail.co.uk

Re: *WARNING* fellow window cleaners
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2011, 12:14:21 pm »
This poor chap died before WFP was widely available.
 
Had this been within the last few years then no major company could legally put an employee at such risk, when avoidance was possible.
& it's the law that ladder use should be avoided where an alternative is available & rightly so.

A mate of mine almost died when he fell 9ft off a ladder onto his head & now he has part of his skull missing as well as multiple bone injuries, depression & loss of memory. The fall was not his fault & caused by another worker.
 
Not worth the risk

George P

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Re: *WARNING* fellow window cleaners
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2011, 12:34:19 pm »
This poor chap died before WFP was widely available.
 
Had this been within the last few years then no major company could legally put an employee at such risk, when avoidance was possible.
& it's the law that ladder use should be avoided where an alternative is available & rightly so.

A mate of mine almost died when he fell 9ft off a ladder onto his head & now he has part of his skull missing as well as multiple bone injuries, depression & loss of memory.
 
Not worth the risk
If i remember rightly we had bought our 1st wfps way before this happened, if a small company could buy one then im sure the bigger companies could,  they just didnt, it wasnt as wide spread as now but you would thin big companies would be at forefront of new technology,

Re: *WARNING* fellow window cleaners
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2011, 07:48:43 pm »
I know i'm a bit of an anorak, but when people are using or working off ladders on TV, they always get the angle wrong, overstretch, don't hold the rungs etc etc etc & tv always shows there use in a casual manner.

When you think of the foot contact of a ladder, it's like standing on your tip toes with the option of sky diving.

Personally i have fallen twice due to my own stupidity without major injurie (only through luck)

I am now ladder trained, more safety aware & WFP & use ladders only where necessary & safe.