[Nameless Drudge]

Hello,was just looking at rhinomans photo`s of a 60ft pole at work and it reminded me of a question i kept meaning to ask,the thread title gives it away.
 What about complaints/payment witheld etc?
 Recently i was in a  large glass fronted hotel,4 stories including the ground floor. There were large foyers/open spaces surrounded by glass on all floors. A very good number of the panes had prominent bird muck ghosting on them(big goose shiytes) and on a couple of panes there were obvious signs where the wfp brush had missed an area completely(no excuse for that i suppose).All obvious from the inside so i took a walk outside where none of these were evident and i checked from different angles.
                                              If it was my hotel i dont think i would be in a rush to pay anybody.Now what i am trying to get at is the wfp operators might have left thinking the job has been done unaware of the ghosting/tiny area missed.
                              I`m trying to get a feel here for the standard of clean provided/accepted with high level work. Is this type of work marketed as a proper window clean or just an improvement?
           

[ScrimShady]

nothing against anyone who uses big poles but i think anything over 4 story is a waste of time, i use rope access if i can get a anchor point..  you cant beat a squeege

[david watts]

firms still expect clean glass even at 45 ft up;
had a job last year real pain in the butt sand and cement left on;
they expected me to get it off with a brush :
lots of access isues better of on council houses

[clarkson]

 Hi
 i work a lot on the 40 to50 foot range. if iam honest a lot of the time we are only getting the thick off and they wont be as clean as lower level domestic stuff. but then they often only have these bigger jobs done a few times a year and are content with that mainly because to bring in high access equipment or abseilers would  quadruple the prices at least.

 i agree with the previous post on built up soiling and heavy marks you cant beat a good rub down with a soapy wetter and blade it off, but no one wants to pay for it these days.

 i had toyed with the idea of tfr or other cleaning agent plus pressure waher on power pole to get year old crap off , just wfp to polish it up but still longwinded and more money.

 cheers

 john

 

[Darranvps]

I just quoted a hotel the other day and you should have seen the state of the ground floor - about 15ft high - windows. They had been done WFP every month for a couple of years and obviously the windy who had been "cleaning" them doesn't have a clue what he/she is doing. It's not rocket science but there are plenty of guys out there using WFP with no idea.

It needs a great deal of technique and expertise to clean very high level windows with wfp and I train all staff past and present correctly.

[Frankybadboy]

I just quoted a hotel the other day and you should have seen the state of the ground floor - about 15ft high - windows. They had been done WFP every month for a couple of years and obviously the windy who had been "cleaning" them doesn't have a clue what he/she is doing. It's not rocket science but there are plenty of guys out there using WFP with no idea.

It needs a great deal of technique and expertise to clean very high level windows with wfp and I train all staff past and present correctly.

you re-quoting your own work then lol

[Jeff Brimble]

I give an 85% clean assurance on high contract work. Nobody has questioned it or the standard of clean.

[Frankybadboy]

I give an 85% clean assurance on high contract work. Nobody has questioned it or the standard of clean.

thats cause you are a top worker jeff and know the job inside out,

unlike some cowboys that claim to do a good job. :

[Clive McDonald]

Cement on windows 45ft up can't be wfp- neither can heavy soiling.I use a rough side applicator plus soap with a wfp finish.

To say you've trained your operators is rubbish- you can't even see it.

[Londoner]

A lot of the commercial companies seem to employ staff who are less than meticulous.

[dai]

A lot of the commercial companies seem to employ staff who are less than meticulous.

That maybe true Vince, but I have encountered it on my own work at times.
You can soak and scrub away until every trace has gone, only to find a shadow of poo left when they dry. Most of the time we don't see it because we have moved on. A film of water can hide these shadows only for them to reappear when the sun hits the glass at a certain angle.
A final dry inspection is called for, it's a real pain in the butt though when you have to go back 50 meters, or to the other side of the building to sort it out.