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L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner

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Remote Control for trolley systems
« on: January 11, 2004, 08:50:38 pm »
With reference to trolley systems using pure water to clean window glass has anyone
installed their own remote control thats operated by a key fob.As I understand it what
you need is just a normal `bog standard` car alarm with a trembler,plus relay in your pump.
A local excellent car electritions say its a very dificult procedure and would cost around
£200.Jeff Brimble has helped out on many things but cant reccomend any brand makes for
me to pursue.All replies much appreciated.


Lewis Doubtfire,Gleem Clean Window Cleaners,West Yorkshire.
L. Doubtfire
Window Cleaner

pdhanson

Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2004, 08:53:21 pm »
As I understand, Peter's trolley system has a radio operated remote control

http://www.window-tools.com

Silly

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2004, 08:59:20 pm »
Lewis, I have one at £45.00, it has a 10amp relay fitted, nothing extra needed.

Peter

APS_PureWash_Sys

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Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2004, 10:13:32 pm »
Lewis
       I agree wilt dom on this one keep it simple let the pressure switch do the work    but the unbiased part is steching it a bit far!!!!!!!!!!!!!                                      

cheers dom

                                          regards andrew
APS PureWash Systems
Pure Water Window Cleaning Equipment

Majestic

Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2004, 10:41:52 pm »
I have to agree with Dom , but he still has to have a go; ;D 8)

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2004, 10:44:58 pm »
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Lewis
if you use a 12V water pump, as used by all the major manufacturers, they have a built in pressure switch. If you install a B&Q supplied hozelock tap @ approx £3.99 or if you want chromed brass, we have them cheap too.
The tap located on your pole hose will thus automatically shut off the pump when you decide, remotely.
Advantages over dink/dink remote of inline tap;
No batteries, works when wet, cant lose it, etc. etc.
 Might sound a bit obvious, but we were approached by 3 operators last year with the same idea.
 Reliability and robustness in all weathers should always be paramount in selecting equipment, so before you part with £45, nip to B&Q with less than a fiver and try a tap first.!
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Dom  


Dom, You wouldn’t be expected to understand the benefits of the remote control on a trolley system as you are not a window cleaner yourself, and have never used one, or have you?

I have used trolley systems both ways, and I know what is best.  I have also sold more than 60 trolley systems in the last 9 months, and I know what my customers prefer, do you know what your customers prefer?

The remote control is the same one as you would find to open a garage door remotely, but what is the point in having one of them when you can open the door with a handle and pull the door open by hand, and what is the point in using the remote control to open your car when approaching it, if you can stick the key in the hole and turn it, then pull the handle?? In fact what is the point in having a garage when you can just leave the car outside?

You will notice that at the end of a couple of sentences in this message there is some of these signs? this is a question mark and it means I am asking you a question, and if you have an answer you are supposed to reply to the question.  I thought I would tell you this, as you seemed to have ignored every other question I have asked you in the past.

Peter


Peter Fogwill

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Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2004, 11:12:27 pm »
I didnt expect you to know how to answer any of it.  Why not just say you cant discuss it for legal reasons?

Peter

Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2004, 11:40:08 pm »
Game set match to Peterf.
Alan

Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2004, 12:15:58 am »
Sorry cut of short.
With you selling your company over this forum you most defiantly don’t paint a good impression of your self to me; I don’t think it is right that you constantly slag off your opposition. To me you come over very insecure or very full of your self.
If it is a way to earn brownie points it is not a nice way to put your self across,
Sorry
Alan

Majestic

Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2004, 12:26:59 am »
At the end of the day we are all just trying to earn a living , if you cant post anything without slagging someone off dont bother  8)

Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2004, 12:28:35 am »
Hi majestic
I totally agree.
Alan

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2004, 12:30:36 am »
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Just for Peter

"Est modus in rebus"

Dom


For anyone wondering what the above means it is "There is a middle course in all things"

You can speak English if you like Dom; there are not too many Latin speaking people on here.

Peter




Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2004, 12:34:40 am »
Hi Dom
To me a lot of the posts you put on this forum are aimed at individuals in around about way. Where people have to constantly defend themselves.
Or am I wrong.
Alan

Majestic

Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2004, 12:43:07 am »
Dom
If you read one of my posts I agreed with you  8)I think you try to hard not every one has a sense of humor like yours  ;D 8)

Mikey Warner

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Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2004, 12:45:56 am »
Hear we go again,........ ::)

Dom-D-Dom-Dom-Dom!

;D ;)

Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2004, 12:47:28 am »
Hi Alan,
remind me not to go to a pub in your part of the world if you think my reply is "starting", I'd be afraid to complain if the lager was warm...!
Dom

Lets hope you dont either
Alan

Mikey Warner

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Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2004, 12:49:57 am »
I think i going to bring a full size wrestling ring to the FED show, could make a few £'s

;D

Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2004, 12:51:35 am »
hi bones
Nightmare.
Alan

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2004, 01:18:11 am »
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Majestic/Alan, Gentlemen,
read the thread carefully again, then read your posts. you are painting everyone with the same brush, which will discourage any other people who want to volunteer technical information, as the approach you have both adopted appears to be that any technical advice that does not fit in with any particular manufacturers aspirations is slagging the competition off.
 99% of pole operators do not use electronic remote control gadgets as offered on this site by Peterf for £45. My advice is simply try a cheap tap for £3.99 from B&Q as it will do the same job as a £45 gadget. Now if that is slagging off PeterF, or informing those who are not in the know, what the industry norm is, then I'll stand by my statement and let any readers decide for themselves if I'm offering good advice
Dom


What you offered in the first place was irrelevant to the question asked, read the original question from Lewis, he wasnt asking what a real industrial chemist puts on his trolley system, he was asking if anyone had installed a remote control on their system, and then went on to ask if anyone could recommend any brand for him to pursue, I told him about mine. He had obviously worked out for himself that there would be some kind of advantage, If I hadnt replied you wouldnt have bothered with your little rant.  

The only reason you volunteered your information was to try and belittle me for offering him a remote control at £45.00.  Why else would you offer information? Certainly not for the good of anyone else on this board, you don't work like that, anyone with half a brain has worked that one out.

And to put the record straight I dont use the remote control on van systems for reasons known to me, but I wouldnt put out a trolley system without one, also for reasons known to me, and if in the future, if you ever develop a trolley system, you may one day work out the advantages.

I would ask you what the real industrial chemists interpretation of the Latin phrase was, but I wont bother as I probably wont get a reply anyway.  I think you better get your book out and look up the meaning again.


Peter


Re: Remote Control for trolley systems
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2004, 02:30:07 am »
Hi Dom
Have you deleted any of your replies from here as some parts are missing (mothercare ones)
Out of interest
Cheers
Alan