[cannon]

Ive just picked up my first indian restaurant today to do next week.

The previous cleaner shrank the carpets and they had to be re-stretched.

Whats my best course of action with this? The carpets arnt to bad.

[Dave_Lee]

You can bet your life they are Belgian Wilton. Indian Restaurants are full of them, as they like their heavily patterned design and cheap cost, be careful, could happen again.
By the way make sure the guy supplying your work is not taking you for a ride. There are people out there who offer this type of Commercial work, and target new Carpet Cleaning start ups. They get a load of work done on the cheap, but as soon as you realise you are not getting enough for the very hard work and try to get more, they desert you and find someone else.
Dave.

[clinton]

As dave just posted re belgium wilton and hes prob spot on.

The last one i did i used a l m system and spotter machine on the walkway near the kitchen as it wasnt really bad.

I had to use carpet glue in some parts as it had shrunk from the previous cleaner..

Also had turbo dryers going just to make sure

[cannon]

Yeah im thinking this is perfect job for my first bonnet clean.

Its not to bad at all, just walkway and general grubbyness and bits of candle wax here and there.

I have no experience of a shrinking carpet and dont intend having one now so i am aprehensive.

How much moisture do these take? im sure ive read someone had one go just off pre-spray, surely you would have to apply alot of prespay for them to shrink or does the very sight of a sprayer have them popping off there grippers

How quickly do they go?

How does this sound?
Secure around edge with something- nails through a card, carpet glue if needed
thorough pre-vac
pre-spray, aggitate and bonnet small areas at a time and get dryer on.
would not cleaning right up to the walls and leaving a few inches help?

Sorry lots of questions and thanks for the replys

[brianbarber]

Recently, I did a BW in a lounge.
Pre warned owner.
Ok go ahead,
Anyway, as I am pre spraying, she pops up and tells me her and a friend had used a rug doctor,
So..... I nuked it.

No problems.

Not suggesting you do the restaurant like that.

Might be worth putting a few  carpet tacks around edges?

Mr B

[markpowell]

Nuke it, plenty vaccum passes and speed dry, price the cost of a fitter into the quote incase it  does need re-stretching
Mark

[clinton]

I usually find the dirt is were the seats next to the wall are worse as sometimes they dont get vacced by the owners so dirt builds up..

[Shaun_Ashmore]

1. Bloody good vac
2. Pre spray with Enzyme based pre spray Power burst (hot)
3. Machanical Agitation
4. Mist a bit more pre spray
5. HWE personally I would add an extraction detergent
6. Get turbos on as you work

If an area won't come up to your liking let it dry before repeating the process on that area.

Shaun

[M.Acorn]

The last one i did was after an employee who was hacked off with the tipped bleach over everything,bench seats the lot,they were asking me if it would come out !! Er no it`s bleach,they were trying to open as I was finishing off,would not eat anything that came out that kitchen,they were using plastic buckets beggars belief

[Carpet Dawg]

Like Shaun said, divide the resturant into 4 sections and do a section at a time so that the pre-spray doesn't dry off and then needing to reaply more... put blower on the section just cleaned and move on to the next.

Enzall would be my choice of prespray to loosin the grease.

[The Carpet Cleaning Pro]

1. Bloody good vac
2. Pre spray with Enzyme based pre spray Power burst (hot)
3. Machanical Agitation
4. Mist a bit more pre spray
5. HWE personally I would add an extraction detergent
6. Get turbos on as you work

If an area won't come up to your liking let it dry before repeating the process on that area.

Shaun

I would use Crystal Green as the detergent. Once extraction complete I would spray a very fine mist of acidic rinse and bonnet to take access soiling and moisture out. Blowers on all the time. "But thats just me"

PS Dont forget to wear shoe protectors so :
1. You don't stick to carpet and
2. You don't want all that grease in your shoe tread

[Shaun_Ashmore]

What you could do is post spray with mpower, nemesis or micro splitter and post bonnet, this will neutralise (if it were needed as the ph level of the carpet will be acidic with all the grease) either of the 3 products above will give it a further clean and neutralise at the same time.

Hope you're charging enough?

Shaun

[cannon]

What you could do is post spray with mpower, nemesis or micro splitter and post bonnet, this will neutralise (if it were needed as the ph level of the carpet will be acidic with all the grease) either of the 3 products above will give it a further clean and neutralise at the same time.

Hope you're charging enough?

Shaun

He said if i do him good price he will get me lots of business  Haha second time ive heard that this week

I went in higher so he could knock me down, I think ive got it about right, for me anyway.

[cannon]

a couple of pics

[cannon]

1 more

[markpowell]

Do the weft shots run in both directions, the pic is not very clear?
Mark

[The Carpet Cleaning Pro]

I recommend that you put carpet tacks around the edge. It takes 5 mins and will help prevent any shrinkage problems.

[Simon Gerrard]

If you take on Belgian Wilton, especially dirty ones in Indian Restaurants, you really are rolling the dice and that is why we tend not to do them. What you have to be aware of is that if it shrinks (and often BW won't re-stretch) then you could be looking at a very large bill. In these situations it is a good idea to weigh up what you have to gain agaisnt what you could potentialy lose. If you can LM it then you reduce the risk but then if it isn't clean enough for the client you risk not getting paid. Experience has taught me to listen to the alarm bells ringing in my head when certain situations present themselves and simply walk away.

Simon

[murky]

Dear Cannon,

Difficult to see as the pics arent that clear as to the back of the carpet, but I would be worried as they have only put 1 set of grippers down, on a BW two rows is the norm to help keep it down.

Tack it down round the edges just to make sure, as you said, its not that bad, we've all seen worse.

Good luck if you decide to take it on.

Murky

[Mike Halliday]

I'll stick my neck out and say that's not a belgian wilton, do a burns test but i'm sure I have done that carpet before and it was a woolmix.

if you are not familiar with the burns test it where you stand in the middle of the room and read Scottish poetry, if the carpet starts to cringe then it wool