[Jackal]

Normally put in £80 a fortnight in me transit      & now that i've got rid of most my out of town work, it might drop to £70 a fortnight 


few years ago when i was using RED it was 62p a litre (before any of you moan, i was caught, and paid my fine) , now its upto 78p a litre

what fine did you have,did they take your vehicle aswell,

some of you lads must do some driving round spending this much on fuel, i put £10 -£20 a week no wonder why you need charge high prices

[Klean07]

This is the kind of thing we want but in van form. Im sure one of the big boys will start making commercial vans etc electric sometime soon.

http://www.nissan.co.uk/?cid=pselectricvehicleUK_enelectricvehiclelocuk&kw=Nissan_leaf#vehicles/electricvehicles/leaf

[George P]

ford do a electric transit that does 100 miles on a charge, can be charged in 4 hours, not practicle for many but its a start towards better mileage, i think vauxhall vivaro has been done too and that mileage was better but this may not be on sale yet (not sure)

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Electric, petrol, diesel etc. won't make any difference. It will still be taxed to death once mainstream, nothing more sure than that guys.

[Scrimble]

i fill my van with LPG, vauxhall combo with a 350l tank, 66p litre 50 litre tank just over 30 quid fills it and it does 29mpg average,


there are ways of reducing fuels costs moaning about the price of diesel is not one of them!

[STEVE-UK]

you mean like one of these

www.roadtransport.com/Articles/2010/02/23/135616/Mercedes-Benz-unveils-electric-Vito.htm

[Klean07]

Doesnt bother me that much because I only average 50 miles a week for business and probably the same amount for social/domestic. However wouldn't it be good if there were more commercial vans that were lower on tax etc. I pay only £30 a year road tax for my Megane but can still get 120 mph if I wanted too.

[SPE]

Save fuel then.  Don't drive a mile more than you have to.  Plan your route with a map rather than guessing from memory.  I bet you a quid that if you look at the routes you've followed this week you could drop 10% of your mileage.  I did it last year and was horrified at some of the routes my mental map thought were short.  That'll turn your £100 fill into a £90 fill.

agreed, and drive like a chauffeur
you'll be suprised how much further your tank will take you when you're not braking hard and accelerating all day long in traffic.
And now the mornings are getting a bit brighter I'm hitting the road earlier before school run and starting at my furthest customer even if it means having a coffee and sitting in the van for half an hour before I start, I prefer it that way to the stress of rush hour traffic and the constant stop/start.

[elite mike]

why not add your support for these

http://www.fairfueluk.com/

[lcwalker]

My brother does building and bought a vivaro but didn't keep it long as his reckons it's one of the most expensive vans he's had to run, they seem to be very popular but i wasn't impressed.

[clarkson]

hi
I think the vivaro is a superb van and dont think there is much between the transit sized vans on fuel.

Has anyone looked at the next size down like transporter,expert ,vito. etc.

I had a scudo as well wasnt much better on fuel, and could nt cope with the payload the viv has on it most days.

 theres not much that can carry a ton of water poles hoses and and two guys. i suppose we just swallow the pill on the fuel. at least we can claim it back think of the employed people paying out of net income.

regards

 john

[prestige cleaners]

that is true, free fuel! forgot about that!

[dazmond]

this is why ive built my whole round within an 8 mile radius!


i dont put more than £20 a week in diesel in my kangoo.thats includes one night collecting as well!!in fact its more like £15 a week.


regards


dazmond

[Sean Dyer]

hi
I think the vivaro is a superb van and dont think there is much between the transit sized vans on fuel.

Has anyone looked at the next size down like transporter,expert ,vito. etc.

I had a scudo as well wasnt much better on fuel, and could nt cope with the payload the viv has on it most days.

 theres not much that can carry a ton of water poles hoses and and two guys. i suppose we just swallow the pill on the fuel. at least we can claim it back think of the employed people paying out of net income.

regards

 john

you get your fuel money back???

not really , you get away with paying tax on it is all, your still saying bye bye to 80 % of the money earned for fuel... id rather pay the tax and have the rest sat in my bank than burned up in fuel tank

i wish they gave us the money back

[clarkson]

 Hi Sean
 of course this is what i mean. but arent you forgetting VAT, national insurance at what 8% on group 4, and you assuming 20% tax rate?

 Also its symantics i know but i never look at turnover as the figure i have made, iam only interested in profit.

 Turnover is vanity and all that.  I have a basic cost base i apply to jobs or a days window cleaning and look at what ive made after wages vat and expenses are taken out. My income is whats left its the true figure.

from that perspective i have had 100%of my fuel paid outside of my income.

As i say you are correct the tax man isnt knocking on my door with a cheque for 100 to fill the van up.

iam still however better off than a factory worker who grosses 240 looses a chunk, then has to goto the garage to fill up.

cheers

john

[Sean Dyer]

 Hi Sean
 of course this is what i mean. but arent you forgetting VAT, national insurance at what 8% on group 4, and you assuming 20% tax rate?

 Also its symantics i know but i never look at turnover as the figure i have made, iam only interested in profit.

 Turnover is vanity and all that.  I have a basic cost base i apply to jobs or a days window cleaning and look at what ive made after wages vat and expenses are taken out. My income is whats left its the true figure.

from that perspective i have had 100%of my fuel paid outside of my income.

As i say you are correct the tax man isnt knocking on my door with a cheque for 100 to fill the van up.

iam still however better off than a factory worker who grosses 240 looses a chunk, then has to goto the garage to fill up.

cheers

john

fair enough

some people do actually believe they some how get evrything back, was just checking

i dont worry about vat as not registered so have to just pay it out anyway

[clarkson]

 hi
 its ridiculous if you think about it, we pay 20% tax 8% ni and then nearly everything we buy is subject to vat at 20%. thats 48% taxation on most of your salary.

 of course fuel is the worst how much of my 100 tank ful is duty ?

  cheers

john