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David Kent @ KentKleen

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Anyone regret wfp?
« on: February 06, 2011, 03:24:23 pm »
As the title states, has anyone out there switched and regretted or is it all a bed of roses!
 just thought this would be a nice sunday afternoon topic

My reply to my own post is =

NO regrets!
Because,
1. I Charge more per job now as i am cleaning all the frames every visit including garage doors!
(yes it can be done trad i know, but it takes too long to do it properly)
2. Easier on the legs and safer than climbing ladders. (My dads wfp and he's 61)
3.Used correctly you get consistent high quality finish faster than trad. (whole house speed)
 
Do YOU have Regrets???

matthewprice

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2011, 03:38:39 pm »
no regreats love wfp now,must admit it was a killer to start with .but a year + on i would not go back to trad. which i did for28 years. wish i did it sooner preventing all that wear and tear  ;D ;D ;D ;D.just wish the course i did was of  more use.

Lee GLS

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2011, 03:46:03 pm »
Absolutely not, the only regret I have is putting if off for 3 years.
I would 100% recommend it to any one.

I'm even more pleased that I don't have to go up ladders anymore after 2 of my window cleaning mates fell of there ladders on the last month, one broke 3 ribs, the other got away with scratches.

Nigel Lee

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2011, 04:02:34 pm »
Its certainly easier to keep (and to a lesser degree get) work trad.  Its not a great econimic climate to be a poler, as things are competitve and work is harder to come by compared to 3 years ago.  We tend to offer both options if its feasible, and really try to ensure the customer is happy with the method.  So no, no regrets.  I'm seeing a couple less flexible firms doing canvassing in working hours lately.  We are not far away from that stage to be fair.  If the weather was tip top, we might be quiet friday afternoons.  The ladder guys I know are still snowed under with work.   

I would hate to be making the change at this moment in time.  Times are hard...and I'm a southerner, if that makes any difference.

LWC

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 04:11:17 pm »
Nope

jay kingston

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2011, 04:20:07 pm »
No regrets at all.Does the job to a higher standard and looks far more professional.It shows you are serious about your work because you have had to invest in equipment.In return this has enabled you to expand your business.It is safer,so a no brainer in my opinion.

Jay


David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2011, 04:25:26 pm »
I agree Jay ALMOST!!
I think trad and wfp can achieve the same standards on glass and frames, its the speed of wfp (if used right) that is the big plus for me.

Smudger

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2011, 04:52:53 pm »
None whatsoever

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

jouk45

  • Posts: 2010
Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2011, 05:11:09 pm »
no regrets at all, the sooner everyone converts over to wfp the better, and no more wfp v trad posts  ;D

Richard Neal

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2011, 05:13:59 pm »
Yup im glad a changed my profits are better as well even with the overheads.
Im not scared of heights, just falling from them.
mrwindowclean@hotmail.co.uk

Slash

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2011, 05:18:07 pm »
I have regreted it sometimes to be honest as far as cost concerns,equitment breaking etc. but on the whole I'm glad of WFP too,my work consists of 80% WFP and 20% trad but would'nt go back to 100% trad now,I earn more WFP and can fit in more jobs daily and can do higher jobs,conservitory roofs etc. but will always do trad too,I get sick of reading threads about WFP V trad,I find anybody can WFP as it's quite basic and does'nt take long to learn to do properly,I respect trad cleaners as it's an art,just like plastering and I always get people telling me I make it look so easy,as long as I'm a window cleaner I will always use both ways of cleaning and really enjoy cleaning windows regardless of how I do it but as long as I earn a good wage at the end of the day I'm happy ;D

Paul Coleman

Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2011, 05:25:37 pm »
As the title states, has anyone out there switched and regretted or is it all a bed of roses!
 just thought this would be a nice sunday afternoon topic

My reply to my own post is =

NO regrets!
Because,
1. I Charge more per job now as i am cleaning all the frames every visit including garage doors!
(yes it can be done trad i know, but it takes too long to do it properly)
2. Easier on the legs and safer than climbing ladders. (My dads wfp and he's 61)
3.Used correctly you get consistent high quality finish faster than trad. (whole house speed)
 
Do YOU have Regrets???


I had regrets in the first 3 months because I found some aspects of it very hard going - and some of the customers' attitudes towards it as well.  It was stressful adapting a ladder round to WFP.  In the end, I freed myself from much of the work that was trickier with WFP (long walkways, courts, link detached etc.).  No regrets since then even though there have been difficulties at times with things breaking.

David Kent @ KentKleen

  • Posts: 1712
Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2011, 06:05:07 pm »
Slash, i agree 100%
I tryed to word the opening post to this topic so it didnt start another wfp vs trad post.

IMO Window cleaning is simple.

1. Dirt on the glass has to be removed and the glass left clear and clean.
2. Dirt on the frames needs (optional but I choose to only offer a clean glass AND frames service) to be removed.

The above can be done to  the same high standard with either wfp or trad. (its like polishing a car it can be done by hand or with a machine (buffer). Both results are the same.

ITS THE SPEED THAT I DONT REGRET and having my feet on the ground.


David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2011, 06:16:35 pm »
guess you dont like cleaning frames stan ;)

Newannaive

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2011, 06:54:35 pm »
only thing to regret it is my neck  :(

bobplum

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2011, 07:12:48 pm »
I have regreted it sometimes to be honest as far as cost concerns,equitment breaking etc. but on the whole I'm glad of WFP too,my work consists of 80% WFP and 20% trad but would'nt go back to 100% trad now,I earn more WFP and can fit in more jobs daily and can do higher jobs,conservitory roofs etc. but will always do trad too,I get sick of reading threads about WFP V trad,I find anybody can WFP as it's quite basic and does'nt take long to learn to do properly,I respect trad cleaners as it's an art,just like plastering and I always get people telling me I make it look so easy,as long as I'm a window cleaner I will always use both ways of cleaning and really enjoy cleaning windows regardless of how I do it but as long as I earn a good wage at the end of the day I'm happy ;D

i sort off agree with slash,i would add that it brings its own problems and its  a new learning curve,will probably be 100% happy in the summer months as ive had it only since october

CLEANCARE WC

  • Posts: 4454
Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2011, 10:32:33 pm »
I regret not going van mount straight away, thats not a veiled dig at anyone just my own opinion/ experience.
WE CLEAN BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT WITH WATER FED POLE WHEN WORKING AT HEIGHT.

Klean07

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2011, 10:37:04 pm »
I don't regret it at all. However I do regret the cost of everything compared to trad. Just when you think everything is going alright something breaks or wears out meaning another £££££'s expense. Its never ending!!
kkleanwindowcleaning.co.uk

mattflashmatt

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Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2011, 10:46:40 pm »
everything cost money. i was a gardener strok the odd job here and there for 15 years then started trad when i had time to make ends meet. didnt want to go trad full time because im not that good with hights. :) and the risk of hitting the ground was to much of a risk. 2 years in alls going well bloody pain at first but had alot of help from a guy i might locally. didnt go van mount went diy cost a bit but when big jobs come your way you can do them.

easycleaner

  • Posts: 244
Re: Anyone regret wfp?
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2011, 11:27:47 pm »
Big regreat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wish I done it years ago!
Mart