[yorky]

Not sure about the Chem-dry comment as they are instructed and trained to HWE clean then bonnet finish.

Personaly always thought bonnet cleaning on a deep down dirty carpet was a bit of a con. Everyone I knew that did it only did it for one reason and it was not based on results. Having cleaned the same carpet after them the sludge in the bottom of my waste tank told it's own story.

Sure I'm going to get abuse for this and yes I know there are certain carpets that can be effectively cleaned using a bonnet but that's my experience in my area.

[robert meldrum]

Yorky

I thought the same until I bought a Texatherm system which achieved at least as good a result as anything else and the latest O/P machines and products achieve even better results otherwise the cynical American T/M owners would not be buying them and raving about them.

O/P users could give exactly the same comment as yours but having achieved superior results with rotary systems than previous operaters had achieved with their carpet backing / underlay soaking T/M's.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

It's not just the Op machine which I would love to buy but I do believe that chemical is 50% of the clean with OP.

Shaun

[Mike_Roper]

Kevin , if you want any tips on bonneting you know here I am . By the way got a new vac motor on warranty , dont worry its bound to stop working when someone lends it , typical.
Also you will find nursing are only in a mad rush to get carpets cleaned when they have an inspection coming up.
Mike

[fenman]

We bonnet 95% of the carpets we clean and this includes a lot of EOT mingers as well as the usual mix of commercials and domestics.
We are not a  cheap alternative to HWE.
If you have the right equipment, training,  chemicals and attitude there is no reason why you cannot achieve the required result.
We run 2 full time vans and have done for 11 years so we must be doing something right.
I get p****d off when carpet cleaners who have never bonneted or who buy a rotary and a few pads  pass judgement on on a type of cleaning they know f***k all about.

Rant over

[Derek_Walker]

When we talk about soil load in a commercial carpet, the most important part is to remove as much of the dry soil as possible. Both systems will struggle without this main part of the cleaning pie. Once this is done using a bonnet to wipe the sticky soil out is a piece of cake. To vacuum properly with the right equipment does however take time and unfortunately time is money.

[yorky]

We bonnet 95% of the carpets we clean and this includes a lot of EOT mingers as well as the usual mix of commercials and domestics.
We are not a  cheap alternative to HWE.
If you have the right equipment, training,  chemicals and attitude there is no reason why you cannot achieve the required result.
We run 2 full time vans and have done for 11 years so we must be doing something right.
I get p****d off when carpet cleaners who have never bonneted or who buy a rotary and a few pads  pass judgement on on a type of cleaning they know f***k all about.

Rant over

People will pass judgement on what they see and just about all the bonnett cleaning I have seen has been sh#te. I'm sure you do a wonderfull job, the trouble is 95% of cleaners that bonnet clean in my area dont and do it because it's fast and cheap, that's just a fact.
I'm retired now so don't have any axe to bare. An example from last week, I got a call from one of the largest public schools in the city. I cleaned all their carpets a couple of years ago using a rotary machine and HWE with a bonnet finish They had been bonnet cleaned for the last three years and my tank was inches deep in mud. Got a call begging me to come back after they were again bonnett cleaned last year and they looked a mess. That was the norm in my time, It took me a week to do the job and they did it in two days.
The fact is the vast majority of cleaners that bonnett clean know f##k all about bonnett cleaning other than it's quick for them.

[Linds Russell]

I'm new to bonneting and am becoming a big fan and would like to know if there are any fibre / construction types that should not be bonneted.

[robert meldrum]

If you want to find out about bonnet cleaning particularly O/P'ing look in here !

CCSOP.COM

They've been bonneting for 40 years and evolving machines along the way.

[james roffey]

I have used my bonnet system a handful of times, what struck me was the colour of the water, no where near as much dirt in the water, i did three rooms and the one i HWE the water was filthy, so HWE then bonnet is best by far, i only bonnet when i have to.

[jasonl]

I have used my bonnet system a handful of times, what struck me was the colour of the water, no where near as much dirt in the water, i did three rooms and the one i HWE the water was filthy, so HWE then bonnet is best by far, i only bonnet when i have to.

If you pre-vac , starting with an empty bag , then mix the contents of the bag once you have finished with water , you will have the same result, bonnetting is about DRY soils, not loose soils ,which are raked and vacced out before any pre spray hits the carpet.

[Dave_Lee]

I have used my bonnet system a handful of times, what struck me was the colour of the water, no where near as much dirt in the water, i did three rooms and the one i HWE the water was filthy, so HWE then bonnet is best by far, i only bonnet when i have to.

If you pre-vac , starting with an empty bag , then mix the contents of the bag once you have finished with water , you will have the same result, bonnetting is about DRY soils, not loose soils ,which are raked and vacced out before any pre spray hits the carpet.

Isn't that what you call a proper foundation.
As they say - "A jobs only as good as its foundations". This refers to any job as well as buildings.
Get the foundation right and the rest of the job is not only easier but of better quality, and its often true that the hidden foundation work takes longer than the finished article.
Dave.

[David Ware]

Just one point of view

http://carpet-cleaning-consumers-guide.blogspot.com/2010/10/is-power-of-machines-important-in.html

Respect

Ian harper

You forgot to show the correct way that we T/M users clean carpets. I would have agitated the pre-spray with a CRB machine, then extracted with RX machine and finished off with a bonnet. You should also mention that one method is putting down only 1/2 litre of cleaning solution and the TM is putting down about 4-5 litre per minute
David

[garybristow]

going back to the original question .what did you do to make it worse???how did you do it first time? gary bristowclean

[ianharper]

Dave

With respect its not my video and the only reason its on my site is to give a view to the debate that powerful suction and heat are not the only factor is carpet cleaning as I am sure you know.

Respect

Ian Harper

[garybristow]

what did you do to make the carpet look worse the next day  ??gary bristowclean

[Kevin Wheatley]

I HWE but it was walked on and had wheel chairs running over it whilst it was still wet.

[brencarpetman]

I have used my bonnet system a handful of times, what struck me was the colour of the water, no where near as much dirt in the water, i did three rooms and the one i HWE the water was filthy, so HWE then bonnet is best by far, i only bonnet when i have to.

If you pre-vac , starting with an empty bag , then mix the contents of the bag once you have finished with water , you will have the same result, bonnetting is about DRY soils, not loose soils ,which are raked and vacced out before any pre spray hits the carpet.

Hi Jason,

You are obviously experienced with bonneting, you always highlight how important pre vaccing is first.
Quick question what vac do you use?? Is it a pile lifter or just regular vac?

Did a job last week and it was my second time bonneting and I HWE first, then bonneted using Prochem bonnett Buff.
Wasnt one bit happy with the job after, but have to admit it was fairly bad to start with.
Interesting thing was, that after I had bonneted the real bad parts this is after I had HWE them, it wicked right back after, and looked almost worse. Looked great when they were done, but terrible afterwards.
Still got paid but was very disappointed with the overall finish.

Bren

[Joe H]

IF I was HWE then going to bonnet afterward, so long as the carpet had not dryed, then I would bonnet with dry pads. This would mean the excess moisture in the carpet, which could cause wick back,  is lifted onto the pad. By using a bonnet cleaning fluid all you are doing is adding to the potential problem due to the fact you put more water on the carpet.

Did a commercial last night just using the bonnet and appropriate cleaning fluid - came up a treat.
Pre vacced using a Flexi 5 and a Kirby (2 of us)

[jasonl]

I rake then pre vac using a sebo bs 36 or 46 depending on the area.

It just makes sense to me that whatever we use as a pre spray will dislodge the loose dirt first sending it to the bacl of the carpet where any method would find it hard to retrieve it.

That beater at Franklins in Sheffield sticks out most in my mind when I think of this, they put a rug that had been cleaned with a TM then bonnetted through it , a huge amount of dry soil came out of it.