[Adam P]

no way suggestion you're lying. what i'm suggesting is getting to any position on google is not the easiest thing to do in a week, let alone the TOP position, especially when you don't know for sure how you did it. last week i cleaned 10,000 sqf of carpet in 10 minutes, it was covered in lucozade and it call come up, don't ask me what i used as i don't know for sure. you see why someone might question that? i'm not saying you're lying but a bit too good to be true so wanted to find out what i wasn't clear on

if you're sure it was a week my thoughts were then that you're listing highly for your company name, which trust me a lot of people think is actually a good thing (it's what BT customer street say in their advertising). but if it wasn't (i had to ask to find out after all), then it surely must have been a very easy ranking due to lack of competition, which is rarely the case.

i guess to summarise my point is that from reading your post it makes it sound as though seo is this easy thing any one can do in a week and get top results. from experience i know this is rarely how it is so wanted to find out what you'd done to get the good results you got. .

[jasonl]

well this discussion aint helping us "in the dark types" much.

but i suppose thats what makes forums so interesting.

"you should charge at least £150 for a suite"

"you should charge no more £75 for a suite"

"£30 for a lounge is about right"

"you should be charging at least £90 for a lounge"

"back clicks from forums help with seo"

"back clicks are useless for seo"

 begs the question, are forums good or bad for your own business? who should you listen to when even the experts on here can't agree?

Derek, join some SEO forums..American ones are the best.

All these SEO pros on here are cleaners and no one actually knows for definate what gets you ranked on google it's all trial and error.

I had 2 sites that i got on the top spots on google for natural listings with the search terms i wanted in a week or so...how did i do it? Don't know for sure but i think links were a big help and the rest was continually reading the SEO forums and trying different theories.

Good luck mate and the website thing isn't as hard as some would have you believe  

There is one SEO pro who built me a site last year , got me near the top of GOOGLE very quickly , he has even posted on this thread, he really does know what he is on about.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Ay men to that, he sounds a good bloke, which of your sites was it Jason?

Shaun

[Steve. Taylor]

Hey jas i posted in this thread but it aint me

Heres what i know about SEO

Take a postage stamp trim it around the edges, that's it a little smaller please
now turn it over i will write on the back for you

[Art]

well this discussion aint helping us "in the dark types" much.

but i suppose thats what makes forums so interesting.

"you should charge at least £150 for a suite"

"you should charge no more £75 for a suite"

"£30 for a lounge is about right"

"you should be charging at least £90 for a lounge"

"back clicks from forums help with seo"

"back clicks are useless for seo"

 begs the question, are forums good or bad for your own business? who should you listen to when even the experts on here can't agree?

Derek, join some SEO forums..American ones are the best.

All these SEO pros on here are cleaners and no one actually knows for definate what gets you ranked on google it's all trial and error.

I had 2 sites that i got on the top spots on google for natural listings with the search terms i wanted in a week or so...how did i do it? Don't know for sure but i think links were a big help and the rest was continually reading the SEO forums and trying different theories.

Good luck mate and the website thing isn't as hard as some would have you believe  

There is one SEO pro who built me a site last year , got me near the top of GOOGLE very quickly , he has even posted on this thread, he really does know what he is on about.

Good stuff Jason but on the whole wouldn't you agree that most on here think they know what they are on about? Bearing in mind advice giving by me was imo spot on as NOONE knows how google ranks sites and some can get it right but mostly by trial and error.

As i said before i did it with 2 different site and not at the same time probably with in a year of each other and both in 1st place in a week

[jasonl]

Most dont have a clue , and a lot of bull is spoken

 www.cleaningprobournemouth.co.uk    was built by the person in question .

[Art]

Most dont have a clue , and a lot of bull is spoken

 www.cleaningprobournemouth.co.uk    was built by the person in question .

Thanks Jason, at last someone who knows what he's on about 

[Ian Gourlay]

i stand corrected. sorry john.

i didn't realise that clicks to your site count in rankings, i thought it was just static back links, clicked or not.

cheers garry,

derek you're actually 100% correct. why would a site benefit from having someone click on it from this site. how would google know this? they don't. only you know that your site has been clicked from here if you have a stat checker and that's no real benefit if the clicks come from here as no one (or few any way) will use your services.

clicks to your site from google will make a difference, clicks on here wont.

willclean will have had a load of clicks from this site from his comment. will i now link back to it because i clicked a link from here? of course not. will google rank it higher, how would it know i've clicked it? all this will do is make willclean see he's had more visitors then ever this month but no increase in sales. you want only real natural visitors who are actually looking for your service so they pick up the phone and call you.

something not seen mentioned is that getting clicks can actually lower your ranking on google. this can happen (but at a guess it's very rare and minimal), but say i search carpet cleaner london, click first result but immediately go back then select number 2 and then use that site. then say 1 million viewers do this. google will see first result is not so good and lower its ranking



 

Years ago I thought the number of Clicks your site got but I was wrong

All I know is that I clicked on somebodys site just now and the adsense followed me over to my widow blind forum.

It apears i am the only one seeing that link

Same applies when I look for sites on Chat up lines for old codgers to pull a beautiful woman

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

There are two ways of looking at websites.

1. As a tool for generating work through web searches

2. As a brochure for your company which you can direct potentiaql customers too.

In terms of SEO, having the search terms in the title does help a great deal and in designing a site, headers etc with SEO in mind.

I have never bothered too much with all the 'tricks ' of SEO just tried to have clear , easy to read sites and it seems to have worked quite well.

Cheers

Doug

[garry22]

1/

There is one SEO pro who built me a site last year , got me near the top of GOOGLE very quickly , he has even posted on this thread, he really does know what he is on about.

I agree Jason,

Yes you did get there through partly, a lack of competition... HOWEVER

You also got there quickly through good on page stuff. Had you not got there straight away, it was only a matter of time before you did due to the good, on-going off-site promotion stuff.

2/ For the record, I did not say that clicks helped SEO. I said they helped a brand new site to aquire links more naturally.

[garry22]

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Getting a site on google in a week is no real biggy - however it is more luck than anything else. It just so happened that you caught google a week before they re-indexed . If it had been a week later - you would have waited maybe up to 5 weeks.
/quote]

All these SEO pros on here are cleaners and no one actually knows for definate what gets you ranked on

google it's all trial and error.

I had 2 sites that i got on the top spots on google for natural listings with the search terms i wanted in a

week or so...how did i do it? Don't know for sure but i think links were a big help and the rest was

continually reading the SEO forums and trying different theories.

Good luck mate and the website thing isn't as hard as some would have you believe

Are those comments really expected to be taken seriously?

[Neil Williams]

Heres what i know about SEO
Take a postage stamp trim it around the edges, that's it a little smaller please
now turn it over i will write on the back for you

Good way of putting it and that's still probably more than I know.
All I know is what I have read from an American computer nerds forum. Guess the advice couldn't be too bad given that I have managed to rank enough sites high enough without the need for 1,000's of links.

[Art]

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Getting a site on google in a week is no real biggy - however it is more luck than anything else. It just so happened that you caught google a week before they re-indexed . If it had been a week later - you would have waited maybe up to 5 weeks.
/quote]

All these SEO pros on here are cleaners and no one actually knows for definate what gets you ranked on

google it's all trial and error.

I had 2 sites that i got on the top spots on google for natural listings with the search terms i wanted in a

week or so...how did i do it? Don't know for sure but i think links were a big help and the rest was

continually reading the SEO forums and trying different theories.

Good luck mate and the website thing isn't as hard as some would have you believe

Are those comments really expected to be taken seriously?

Probably not but that's what i did

[garry22]

Arthur,

I'm sorry if I sounded sarcastic.

I wish it was as easy as that everytime but sadly, in competitive areas it's not. It would be nice if CCs could stick a site up and get business straight away.

As for experts who are cleaners, there are several people on here that are more clued up than a lot of so called SEO companies.

A couple run many afilliate sites (maybe the toughest market). Another who posts on here actually runs a successful SEO business (but never mentions it on here). There's also is someone who runs a string of highly placed websites throughout the country (who's sites are a pig to dislodge  )

[Dennis]

Most dont have a clue , and a lot of bull is spoken

 www.cleaningprobournemouth.co.uk    was built by the person in question .

Did you know Shaun was the first to import waving to the UK?
 

[jasonl]

Yes , but Shaun wands and waves , Jason bonnets and waves, which is in fact actually possible , whereas wanding and waving is not possible , I think I will get the ASA onto Shaun , and send him a solicitors letter.

[derek west]

i eat maccies and wand, and without the aid of a safety net or girl glide.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

I can wand and wave easily with my glide on I need a spare hand to open 'the letter' 

Shaun

[clinton]

Chatting in code now shaun

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Mention it to Roger he will fill you in

Shaun