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derek west

WTF!!!
« on: February 01, 2011, 11:50:06 am »
just took valves out of the pump on trucky to see if i can sort prob, loads of bits of metal in there, not goood.

just trying to get the last valve out but its behind the chemical pump so not easy, still no better with 5 cleaned so i'm hoping the last valve cleaned will sort it other wise i'm guessing the metal bits are the problem, not the fact there in the valves but more, where they came from. if anyone has an idea please call me, 07854690355, off to get a big spanner. or should i buy a sledge hammer ;D

derek west

Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2011, 03:50:51 pm »
found the problem, not good.

Mike Halliday

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Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2011, 04:11:18 pm »
derek that does not look good :-\

this photo shows what part that is,

it  does not help your problem but might help you understand what you are looking at
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Mike Halliday

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Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2011, 04:14:35 pm »
sorry double post of picture :-\
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

derek west

Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2011, 04:32:29 pm »
cheers mike, got a whole new pump coming, £550 all in. "ouch"

its either that or wait 6 weeks for a new conrod.

Graeme@Access

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Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2011, 05:15:10 pm »
Hi,

Why would they corrode to the level they have? When i first read this i thought you might just have filled from an old boiler that shed's iron filings...but like to title says..wtf.

Im thinking we need to move TM soon and would love to know what could avoid this pump corrosion prob.

I take it you haven't been extracting with nothing other than northern water.

Graeme
Access Cleaning Solutions

markpowell

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Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2011, 05:16:36 pm »
Has it been leaking slightly Derek to corrode so bad?
Mark

derek west

Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2011, 05:24:19 pm »
its not corroded, the nut on the first conrod had worked itself loose then got the poo kicked out of it and caused the problems in the brass pump housing, see pickies.

derek west

Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2011, 05:26:49 pm »
on picture one your looking at the dome on the left of the 3, it looks lighter than the other 2 uneffected domes and on picture 2 you can see it from reverse so its the port hole on the right, thats where the bolt came off and got battered.

Paul Heath

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Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2011, 05:40:11 pm »
What a mess ...sorry to hear about your problem, just out of interest you able to get the old one reconditioned? Keep it as a spare.  Need this sort of thing this time of the year like a hole in the head. Keep smiling

derek west

Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2011, 05:46:52 pm »
luckily completed my 2 big jobs on monday, had nothing today all though i had 3 numbers to ring but left it, tomorrow got 1 job but its a facebook friend so i can cancel that, the parts arriving before 9 on thursday hopefully so i'll just cancEl the morning onE, and nothing for friday cos i'm off to the egghead auditions ;D

next week, big commercial, well! big for me. so hopeing all will be well by then.

Mike Halliday

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Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2011, 05:57:59 pm »
cheers mike, got a whole new pump coming, £550 all in. "ouch"

its either that or wait 6 weeks for a new conrod.

£550!

might be a bit late but if you can read the serial number you could try dual pumps for a repacement.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

derek west

Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2011, 06:17:45 pm »
cheers mike but to be honest, hydramaster provide a good level of service, rang martin at least 8 times today for help and assistance. be wrong of me to use hydra for free help then go elsewhere for the parts. dreading the heat exchanger or blower going kaput. talking 1000's.

Simon Gerrard

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Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2011, 08:41:47 pm »
Derek,

How many hours has your pump done?
I like your loyalty to Martin & hm, nice touch.

Simon

derek west

Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2011, 10:58:03 pm »
i think this is more down to just unlucky rather than wear and tear. the bolt worked loose and caused the damage, luckily while inspecting i found another loose bolt on the fly wheel. not looking forward to fitting an all new pump as i have to disengage the clutch or something to get the pump off, luckily i'll have martin to blag all day if i get stuck ;D

simon

if its one thing ive learnt since becoming a carpet cleaner  its the fact that cheaper isn't always better when it comes to providing a service, ive never once said hydramaster are cheap but they don't half look after you. just a shame there right on the other side of the world ;D

Jim_77

Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2011, 12:49:30 am »
I wish they'd fix my rx-20, it's been there for a month!

p.s. sorry to see you're having probs derek mate :(

John Kelly

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Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2011, 07:57:46 am »
This can happen on pumps. It is just a nut on the end of a shaft after all. All nuts can work loose even if they are loctited in. No great job to pull the head off naw and again to check the tightness. They do get some hammer as do the other parts of truckmounts. Its worth putting half a day aside at least once a month and go over the whole machine tightening things up.
One point, if a joint is leaking, don't just tighten it as you are likely to make things worse. Loosen it then renew the thread tape, then re-tighten.

derek west

Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2011, 10:05:52 am »
parts arrived, time to get my hands dirty, bit worried about taking the clutch thingy off, wish me luck, i'm going in.

Paul Heath

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Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2011, 10:18:53 am »
Go for it....."break a leg" as they say  ;D

Colin Day

Re: WTF!!!
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2011, 11:26:41 am »
Just a quick one! To stop it ever happening again, once the nuts are in place you could get someone to drill a tiny hole through the nut and bolt and use a split pin to secure it....

I would have suggested peening the nut and bolt, but this is no good for when the nut needs to be removed... :)