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Taylor & Taylor WC Services

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What do you pay your staff?
« on: January 21, 2011, 07:27:51 pm »
I have a guy full time and pay him £45 a day for 6 1/2 hrs a day which works out at £6.92 an hour. Is this fair? Sometimes he works alone.

Rogue Trader

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2011, 07:43:04 pm »
As far as i am concerned No.

Though it all depends what his daily turnover is.

Dean Taberner

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2011, 07:44:54 pm »
Hi,

I've got a team of volunteers,

Although it doesn't suit everyone it works for me.

Cheers,

Dean.
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

Lee GLS

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2011, 07:45:41 pm »
i dont employee anybody, but 8 years ago while i was starting up, i worked for a couple of different windies, and they both paid me £80 a day, that was 8.30-3.30/4.00ish.

I going by that it isnt fair, but as matt says, it depends on what his turnover is.

bobplum

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2011, 07:56:50 pm »
I have a guy full time and pay him £45 a day for 6 1/2 hrs a day which works out at £6.92 an hour. Is this fair? Sometimes he works alone.

do you think it is fair for what he does and does he think it is fair for what he does?

Taylor & Taylor WC Services

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2011, 08:02:33 pm »
His turnover in a day in approx £150

Dean Taberner

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2011, 08:04:53 pm »
In the big picture 45 for 6ish hrs a day is 7quid+ an hour which is considerably more than the min wage so I'd say yes, its very fair.

Dean.
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

Taylor & Taylor WC Services

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2011, 08:05:50 pm »
In the big picture 45 for 6ish hrs a day is 7quid+ an hour which is considerably more than the min wage so I'd say yes, its very fair.

Dean.

Thank you Dean, that's how I was looking at it!

Dean Taberner

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2011, 08:12:18 pm »
Whatever you turnover is your business,

You've had the bottle to take the gamble,

Turnover versus payment is irrelevant as there are many many costs that an employee with a stable job and 4-5wks holiday pay do not have to worry about.

Dean.
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

geefree

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2011, 08:42:55 pm »
I think turnover versus payment is very relevant ,  profit is what makes the world go round,

if you turned over £150... and gave your employee £100.....

your going backwards

Dean Taberner

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2011, 08:53:41 pm »
What I mean by irrelevant is irrelevant in the employers favour as in the employer decides what wages are paid based on what is best to take the business forward,

Dean.
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

geefree

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2011, 09:11:23 pm »
if you had a turn over of £200 and paid an employee £100 (50%) would you say that was going backwards?

Thats up to you, if you are giving him 50% of the turnover , and you are covering costs out of your 50% , before you can think of a profit.... but i doubt at paying someone  £100 from a turnover of £150 will make any profit at all,

to me thats going backwards , employing someone only to take the strain of the employers workload.

when you can trim your round , get rid of low payers , try replace them with better calls, and work alone.

I dont employ , so my comments may be way out  ;)

Just my little mind finkin'  ;)

P @ F

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2011, 09:17:17 pm »
In my eyes pay them as little as poss , the ones i took on were a waste of spunk , fine in my van with a 2 man set up , put them out in the baby van  and they all took the P, productivity was less costs was more , and service as in the quality went through the floor , they dont want to do our job no matter what you pay them , this country is full of lazy tw*ts who all want an easy ride , i dont have one so why the fook should they ?

Anybody wanna work for me , its a doddle , if your the right bloke , if i was any more laid back i'd fall over !

Rich  
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

formb

Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2011, 09:24:59 pm »
If you get the right guy, you want to keep, you have to pay them the right money.
 

geefree

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2011, 09:30:59 pm »
Nice one  ;)

Taylor & Taylor WC Services

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2011, 09:32:32 pm »
In my eyes pay them as little as poss , the ones i took on were a waste of spunk , fine in my van with a 2 man set up , put them out in the baby van  and they all took the P, productivity was less costs was more , and service as in the quality went through the floor , they dont want to do our job no matter what you pay them , this country is full of lazy tw*ts who all want an easy ride , i dont have one so why the fook should they ?

Anybody wanna work for me , its a doddle , if your the right bloke , if i was any more laid back i'd fall over !

Rich  

Great post!!

I have a guy now who's reliable, works hard and does a decent job but I have asked him to work alone until the middle of February whilst I build the business and his enthusiasm and standards have dropped a lot.

He is the third guy I have took on and they all start with enthusiasm and end up poope.......the first one I got rid of, the 2nd used it between jobs and now this one seems to be losing interest.....but this ones the one I want to keep!!

geefree

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2011, 09:37:44 pm »
In my eyes pay them as little as poss , the ones i took on were a waste of spunk , fine in my van with a 2 man set up , put them out in the baby van  and they all took the P, productivity was less costs was more , and service as in the quality went through the floor , they dont want to do our job no matter what you pay them , this country is full of lazy tw*ts who all want an easy ride , i dont have one so why the fook should they ?

Anybody wanna work for me , its a doddle , if your the right bloke , if i was any more laid back i'd fall over !

Rich  

do you know i agree with everything you say , young lads treat it as the worst job in the world, and to their cool mates . , they are the pits..... so given the stick they get from their peers , they will treat wimdow cleaning like one step up from being a dole dosser....

So whilst i agree that its hard to find people who respect it as a job ,..and most will be embarrased to tell their mates what they do....

i think a decent wage with bonuses and a good relationship  will  pay dividends.

formb

Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2011, 09:38:42 pm »
People want different  things from their job money is never everything, but I do think that paying someone as little as that who you trust to work alone is a bad idea.

You won't get too many that you trust on their own.

P @ F

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2011, 09:46:08 pm »
Gazza , just read your post mate , fookin in a nutshell , couldnt be any more right mate, my advice would be to any of you out there , before you get the charlie big spuds head on , as i did , and failed .

Its all very well takin on and takin on work , but you get to the point when you need 2 vans to cover it , chances are you got loads of crap jobs on the books , dont bother with it , before you even think of van 2 step back and look at your round , when its full of top dollar work that you cant do on your own van 2 is an option , but me myself have learned the hard way , i just am upping all prices by £1 or £2 in the past week , the difference in income is mental , i finally feel that my round is gonna come good , its a beast of a round and i feel that employing for me is a no no , dont need the grief .
Commercial is rocky too at the mo , just lost in the region of 7-8K a year , nobodys fault , just the way it is , but if any thing its given me more drive to sort out my own affairs before running about for others .
Not a dig at me old chum ........you know who you are ! , i'm still here mate

Number 1 for a while now , take stock , and again ATTACK !

RICH

  
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Taylor & Taylor WC Services

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Re: What do you pay your staff?
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2011, 09:46:58 pm »
People want different  things from their job money is never everything, but I do think that paying someone as little as that who you trust to work alone is a bad idea.

You won't get too many that you trust on their own.

I see your point.......he's 50 has 2 houses both paid and health problems prevent him working any stressful or long hour jobs. So in a way my job is perfect for him. I'm sure the moneys not the issue? I think he may struggle with the extra work.

Also asking him to work alone now is only going to benefit both of us in a  few months as I can then afford to give him a pay rise. As it's allowing me to canvass an extra £100 on average a day. So by the end February I'll be in a far better position.