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JoeMax

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Is petrol/diesel costs...
« on: January 15, 2011, 12:58:44 pm »
taking a huge chunk out of your profits?

Or is it just a few quid everyday?

chopsie

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Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2011, 01:15:08 pm »
I spent £40 a week. But I suppose it will be creeping up to 45 ish now
chopsie

A & J Owen Window Cleaning

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Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2011, 01:28:03 pm »
We are just trying to reduce mileage. Have let a couple of customers go who are just too far out.
Probably crept up by about £5 pw at the mo

Jackal

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Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2011, 01:49:06 pm »
about £10 a week creeping up to 12ish its great when your furthest house is less than 5 miles from your house  ;D

steve rix

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Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2011, 10:53:22 pm »
We are oput in the sticke in the Cotswolds, my fuel bill for two vans and my own car are about £550/£650 pcm, so yes it is hurting us. Most of my customers are well off and dont mind paying a bit extra


♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2011, 11:21:14 pm »
Personally, I can easily absorb the price rise in fuel. I would still be fine at £2 per litre. I don't price or work that close to the bone. ;) That's from a business point of view. However, the tax on fuel is now just ridiculous in this country, in fact the amount of tax on everything is too high. We've been bled dry by greedy fat cats & allowed our country to become so over-populated with foreign immigrants to the point of breaking it's back. ::)

Paul Coleman

Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2011, 07:33:43 am »
Personally, I can easily absorb the price rise in fuel. I would still be fine at £2 per litre. I don't price or work that close to the bone. ;) That's from a business point of view. However, the tax on fuel is now just ridiculous in this country, in fact the amount of tax on everything is too high. We've been bled dry by greedy fat cats & allowed our country to become so over-populated with foreign immigrants to the point of breaking it's back. ::)

I deliberately make no comment on your views about the causes of the fuel price issue as it would probably sidetrack this thread.

Regarding the fuel prices and the ability to absorb it though.
Yes, I could probably absorb a £2 litre too if all other things remained equal.  It would represent an extra cost to me of about £80 - £100 a month and I could live with that - albeit on a tighter budget.  However, the main problem is that other things wouldn't remain equal.  Many customers would undoubtedly feel the pinch and start cancelling or reducing services still further.  Other inflation would increase by quite a margin making basic products more expensive.  You don't have a window cleaner when struggling to buy the basics.  The usual blunt instrument against inflation is to shunt up interest rates making your mortgage (if you have one) and the customers' mortgages more expensive - possibly a lot more.  A 1% hike in rates would equate to about £70 a month on many mortgages - though obviously this varies a lot depending how much has been borrowed.  The problems would go a lot further IMO than just having a higher diesel bill.  New work would undoubtedly be harder to come by.  The total window cleaning pot in the UK would decrease - and there would be more window cleaners chasing that pot as unemployment increased.
None of this is rocket science of course.  There are always knock on effects with economics - both on the way up and on the way down.
This is one reason why I am sceptical about politicians bleating regarding reducing the public sector for the private sector to take over.  Many parts of the private sector actually depend upon the public sector supplying reasonably paid jobs with reasonable security.  It might just work if the savings in the public sector were used to boost startups in the private sector.  That won't happen though as the savings are going towards paying pre-existing debts.  The only way it might happen is by printing yet more money (QE) - i.e. more inflation.
The reality is that we are seeing the first part of a global power shift IMO and that we will all need to start getting used to that.
I didn't intend to drift so far off course with this thread but I've done it now  ;D

Count Phil

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Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2011, 09:03:55 am »
Spot on Paul Coleman. Global power shift.

andyM

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Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2011, 09:46:16 am »
This book is 3 years old now but when I read it in 2008 it was quite an eye opener

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Credit-Crunch-Globalisation-Worldwide-Economic/dp/0745328105

One of the Plebs

formb

Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2011, 11:38:18 am »
We are now looking at £2000 a month on fuel.

:(

Klean07

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Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2011, 11:45:48 am »
We are now looking at £2000 a month on fuel.

:(
Thats more than I earn in a month. Ouch!!
kkleanwindowcleaning.co.uk

window11

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Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2011, 04:57:06 pm »
130 pound to fill my van, that last for 18 days.

in that i make easy 19 to 2000 pound, im di only, little over head there, mortgage free with no kids.
my van is a good runner and i drive at 55 everywhere.

on the hole it really doen not effect me, its all hype at the moment, it will soon go dwn again

Paul Coleman

Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2011, 06:16:35 pm »
130 pound to fill my van, that last for 18 days.

in that i make easy 19 to 2000 pound, im di only, little over head there, mortgage free with no kids.
my van is a good runner and i drive at 55 everywhere.

on the hole it really doen not effect me, its all hype at the moment, it will soon go dwn again

I see what you mean.  Even if custies did start deserting, you should easily be able to cover your living expenses.

dazmond

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Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2011, 09:47:36 pm »
not really noticed to be honest!i usually put £20 a week in diesel costs for my business and occasionally another tenner per week for leisure but that IS only occasionally! ;) :) :)

likes been said its the overall inflation of everything else as a direct result of fuel rises that hits us in the pocket as well.


prices wont come down anytime soon as there is a 2p fuel duty rise in april  to come!! >:( >:(


regards


dazmond
price higher/work harder!

Re: Is petrol/diesel costs...
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2011, 09:57:24 pm »
To understand the true impact of fuel increases one needs to equate it to a percentage of you turn over and then take the same view with a price increase in relation to turnover and profit.The percentage will tell you the truth so pound increases are a false picture.