[darren clarke]

stright veg oil, from a cash and carry,  use it 50/50 in your tank

does it work out much cheaper tho these days iv seen drums in tesco 15 lts for 13 quid not sure how much cheaper cash an carrys are

thats cheap get it

[jimboo]

do they sell "red diesel" in uk filling stations? sold here in n.ire for agricultural use [iillegal for road use]
but its cheaper ...roughly70/80 pence per litre.......hence a lot of guys using it!!!

[Jackal]

do they sell "red diesel" in uk filling stations? sold here in n.ire for agricultural use [iillegal for road use]
but its cheaper ...roughly70/80 pence per litre.......hence a lot of guys using it!!!

yes theres one by me that sells it,75p a litre normally the country type fuel stations sell it,

anyone no what the fines are if caught with red in the tank

[Scrimble]

i knew someone using red and got caught, they took his van, fined him over a grand, and estimated how much back tax he owed them and sent him a bill cost him an arm and a leg, not worth the risk

[Jackal]

thought they just took van off you didnt realise they give you a fine aswell  : think i better use the road legal stuff 

[darren clarke]

i have used veg oil in my van,  stinks like a chip shop now

[Spruce]

snap wrecked my astra van aswel, £700 pum went, just not worth it. Would be worth investing in an lpg powered van or car maybe?

it trashed my astravan i even had to pay to have the fuel tank taken off and cleaned out because it blocked it all up, dont bother with bio diesel your wasting your time honestly.

I've got a vauxhall combo dual fuel LPG 64p litre dirt cheap to run no way would i ever use bio crap in my van again

what sort of mpg do you get with lpg mate? its about 74p per litre here and thinking of getting combo just unsure if to go diesel or lpg?
thanks

i get about 30mpg out if it at 64p litre so about 60mpg at 128p which is how much petrol is round here, i had a 1.3 cdti combo and that only did about 43mpg average so savings are made with lpg

But you also need to consider that the 1.3cdti combo will be worth more price and desirability wise at the tail end of the day than an LPG conversion. Also the price of the conversion needs to be added to the equation. If the tank is situated inside, then valuable space is lost.

I will always remember in 2002 a customer of mine did an cost analysis of buying a new Citroen Picasso 1.8 petrol and coverting it to LPG and a straight Picasso Hdi diesel. He worked out that with cost of the cars and the price of petrol and diesel compared to LPG and their respective fuel consumption, he would only break even cost wise after 77k. In those days LPG fuel stations where not an numerous as they are today, so he also expected the break even mileage point to be higher as he could end up filling the tank and using petrol from time to time.

He also felt that the tank would take up the majority of his boot space and destroy any advantage gained usuability wise with the rear seats folded up.

Now I'm not sure about all vehicles, but certain engines fair better with LPG conversions than others. The Merc petrols have good conversion potential as do some Chysler engines, where the Jag petrol engine is not a good candidate. Ask a local executive taxi service of their experience.
Servicing an LPG converted vehicle also costs more as valve tappet clearances need to be checked and readjusted everytime. You also need to send the vehicle back to the LPG converted for an annual equipment check and recalibration if necessary - more expense.

I also believe that the Ford Transit LPG that you can buy from the factory is fitted with a special engine unique to that vehicle. It isn't the same as the petrol engine that would be fitted to their petrol engined cars for example.

Spruce.

[Blue Frog Systems]

i ran bio diesel in one of my old vans and it f***ed it up big time, dont bother you will regret it, knackered diesel pump injectors blocked filters made the engine pour out smoke, it would struggle to start in the morning etc could go on all day,

dont bother you'll regret it

Was it from the garden centre down the A34 mate... they had a bad batch down there.

[Jackal]

i have used veg oil in my van,  stinks like a chip shop now

iv used it in mine 100% and when its cold takes longer to start engine and wouldnt go above 50 mph,its ok in summer but winter needs a mix with diesel

[Scrimble]

snap wrecked my astra van aswel, £700 pum went, just not worth it. Would be worth investing in an lpg powered van or car maybe?

it trashed my astravan i even had to pay to have the fuel tank taken off and cleaned out because it blocked it all up, dont bother with bio diesel your wasting your time honestly.

I've got a vauxhall combo dual fuel LPG 64p litre dirt cheap to run no way would i ever use bio crap in my van again

what sort of mpg do you get with lpg mate? its about 74p per litre here and thinking of getting combo just unsure if to go diesel or lpg?
thanks

i get about 30mpg out if it at 64p litre so about 60mpg at 128p which is how much petrol is round here, i had a 1.3 cdti combo and that only did about 43mpg average so savings are made with lpg

But you also need to consider that the 1.3cdti combo will be worth more price and desirability wise at the tail end of the day than an LPG conversion. Also the price of the conversion needs to be added to the equation. If the tank is situated inside, then valuable space is lost.

I will always remember in 2002 a customer of mine did an cost analysis of buying a new Citroen Picasso 1.8 petrol and coverting it to LPG and a straight Picasso Hdi diesel. He worked out that with cost of the cars and the price of petrol and diesel compared to LPG and their respective fuel consumption, he would only break even cost wise after 77k. In those days LPG fuel stations where not an numerous as they are today, so he also expected the break even mileage point to be higher as he could end up filling the tank and using petrol from time to time.

He also felt that the tank would take up the majority of his boot space and destroy any advantage gained usuability wise with the rear seats folded up.

Now I'm not sure about all vehicles, but certain engines fair better with LPG conversions than others. The Merc petrols have good conversion potential as do some Chysler engines, where the Jag petrol engine is not a good candidate. Ask a local executive taxi service of their experience.
Servicing an LPG converted vehicle also costs more as valve tappet clearances need to be checked and readjusted everytime. You also need to send the vehicle back to the LPG converted for an annual equipment check and recalibration if necessary - more expense.

I also believe that the Ford Transit LPG that you can buy from the factory is fitted with a special engine unique to that vehicle. It isn't the same as the petrol engine that would be fitted to their petrol engined cars for example.

Spruce.

my combo is factory fit dual fuel which means its not some bodged together conversion and there is no loss of load space tank is underneath, the lpg vans are worth more than the diesel anyway there rare cheaper to run and free to enter the centre of london congestion zone, i've had a diesel van a combo 1.3 cdti and it cost me more to run i'm not saying this assuming things i know because i've had both,

not saying everyone should change to lpg buy a conversion etc but for me it works out cheaper.

yeah bluefrog was from there, they closed down it was in the paper it wrecked loads of cars/vans wasnt just a bad batch i foolishly kept filling up there and it trashed 4 of my old astravans. i would never ever ever put bio diesel veg oil wvo svo or whatever dog p people seem to penny pinch with and think there saving money,

good luck with the repairs bills