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Poll

With VAT going up, how has this affected your pricing structure ?

I have had to INCREASE my prices
37.2%
16 (37.2%)
My prices have remained THE SAME as last year.
60.5%
26 (60.5%)
I have REDUCED my prices in the hope of getting more customers.
2.3%
1 (2.3%)

Total Members Voted: 33

terrymaloy

  • Posts: 229
VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« on: January 10, 2011, 03:11:18 pm »
Was just wondering because of the VAT increase, have you put your prices up ?

Adam P

  • Posts: 1453
Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2011, 03:44:04 pm »
at a guess i'd say everyone is still charging the same prices e.g. £40 for living room, then plus whatever vat is at, so customer will see an increase of 2.1% but the cleaners price will still bee the same.

richy27

Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2011, 06:28:05 pm »
i dont think th 2 % increase will effect prices too much but prices should but prob wont rise with the increase in fuel and other direct costs.   

clinton

Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 06:35:14 pm »
I think a lot of companies will absorb the increase in some case spec with small purchases.

Same prices really for me so wont be an increase for me here.

Griffus

  • Posts: 1942
Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 06:36:25 pm »
Charge = Price + VAT

VAT has always made getting domestic custy's harder but I doubt the increase will affect this either way.


garyj

Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2011, 09:50:02 pm »
at a guess i'd say everyone is still charging the same prices e.g. £40 for living room, then plus whatever vat is at, so customer will see an increase of 2.1% but the cleaners price will still bee the same.

Do you give your domestic customers a price then add the VAT?  ( It's 2.5% BTW not 2.1)

Adam P

  • Posts: 1453
Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2011, 09:56:40 pm »
£100 plus vat etc.

it's a 2.1% (or there abouts) difference btw not 2.5% ;)

garyj

Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2011, 10:00:46 pm »
Maths isn't my strong point, can you please explain to me simply? Cheers

Adam P

  • Posts: 1453
Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2011, 10:11:42 pm »
Quote
The increase will see the rate rise from 17.5% to 20% - meaning an extra 2.13p added ito products that had previously been sold for £1.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/VAT-Increase-25-Percent-And-Rises-To-20-Percent-Chancellor-George-Osborne-Hopes-For-Budget-Deficit/Article/201101115879089?f=rss

remember you can't just add another 2.5% to your prices to work out the increase. you need to remove the vat, so take 17.5% off your current total, then add 20%. the increase should be around 2.1% (i hope)

Mike Halliday

  • Posts: 11578
Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2011, 10:12:36 pm »
priced £100 vat @ 17.5%  = £ 117.50p

price £100 vat @ 20% = £120

The actual difference that the customer pays is 2.1%........I think

is that what adam is basing his figures on ????
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Mike Halliday

  • Posts: 11578
Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2011, 10:13:31 pm »
adam answered as i was typing ;)
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Matt Seymour

  • Posts: 762
Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2011, 10:22:31 pm »
While the VAT increase doesn't make a particularly significant difference in real terms given the prices in this industry, it's the psychological effect of the increase that worries me.

People will now naturally feel a sense of dread when they hear anyone mention "VAT"

I wouldn't want to be charging VAT at the moment.

garyj

Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2011, 10:28:02 pm »
Don't get it!

120/117.5 x 100 = 102.127.

An increase of 2.1 %

But its gone up 2.5, where is the missing .4  ???

Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)

  • Posts: 2024
Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2011, 10:40:49 pm »
117.5 is 97.9% of 120 - the difference is 2.1

VAT has increased by 2.5 percentage points but is in fact an increase of 14.28%

The old fraction for extracting VAT from a VAT+cost figure was 7/47. This has now changed to 1/6.

The are lies, damn lies and statistics.

My brain is now hurting.

Rog
Diplomacy: the art of letting other people have your way

Ian Rochester

  • Posts: 2588
Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2011, 05:21:17 am »
Is this a maths class or what!

Dave_Lee

  • Posts: 1728
Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2011, 05:02:58 pm »
Or a simple explanation:-

Vat has increased by 2.5% meaning that the overall Vat INCLUSIVE price has increased by 2.1%

Dave.

Dave Lee, Owner of Deepclean Services
Chorley Lancs. Est 1980.
"Pay Cheap -You get Cheap - Pay a little more and get something Better."