[Kate2]

Service

Been toiling this for a while, not sure what the support would be

Background of myself 20 years cold calling, account chasing, new business

If you were offered a comprehensive package, of cold calling, accounts chasing, software

Would you pay?

Just out of interest

[Daniel12]

cold calling yes, but do the rest myself

[Paolo]

I am actually looking into employing a Sales Rep at the moment.

I am in the process of putting the figures together but would expect the package to be in the region of £15k basic, car, phone and OTE of about £35k.

But then looking at what you've said, maybe I am better off paying a very competent office type with a salary of about £15k but with smaller OTE.

[SB Cleaning]

cold calling yes, but do the rest myself

like wise

[concept]

Christ, you again?!

Tout for business elsewhere, where people have marketing budgets...not a window cleaners forum!

[jr windows]

I thought you were not doing this kind of work anymore Kate ?

[lee09]

I thought you were not doing this kind of work anymore Kate ?

She misses us.
 But I agree with concept.

[Steve CM]

Service

Been toiling this for a while, not sure what the support would be

Background of myself 20 years cold calling, account chasing, new business

If you were offered a comprehensive package, of cold calling, accounts chasing, software

Would you pay?

Just out of interest

i would pay but it depends on how much but all the above you have mentined are something i would pay someone to do

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

Im my all in one 
Why pay for someone else 
 

[mikecam]

Service

Been toiling this for a while, not sure what the support would be

Background of myself 20 years cold calling, account chasing, new business

If you were offered a comprehensive package, of cold calling, accounts chasing, software

Would you pay?

Just out of interest

Yes.

[Kate2]

Not really getting you concept with all due respect,

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

I DO CONCEPT 

[Moderator David@stives]

Christ, you again?!

Tout for business elsewhere, where people have marketing budgets...not a window cleaners forum!

Why wouldn't a window cleaner have a marketing budget ?

[Kate2]

Concept, the reason Im asking is based on issues that seem to arise, due to me working for some people on here.  Its only identifying a problem and trying to provide a solution to it, thats all really. 

[Paolo]

Morning Kate,

Can you email me at sales@adaptcleaningservices.co.uk  please?

I'd like to chat about a few things.

[formb]

Would I pay?

Not without knowing how much I had to pay.

Not straightforward to put a price on it I realise,  but a ballpark maybe?

[Paul Coleman]

Christ, you again?!

Tout for business elsewhere, where people have marketing budgets...not a window cleaners forum!

Come on Concept.
She's entitled to ask the question.
I suspect that Kate's biggest problem on here is that window cleaning businesses generally tend to be more about one man bands than most business types - i.e. the guys do most of it for themselves.
I've no use for her service as I stand but I imagine that if I had a load of people working for me it might be useful.

I'm not certain of this but I also suspect that there are differences in marketing a window cleaning business are a bit "non-standard" when comparing marketing of other businesses.  Sure the usual tricks of the trade can apply up to a point but beyond that, it could be overkill. I think our American friend (can't recall his name now) showed that - although that may have been more a difference in culture as in business type.
Although doing things differently to stand out from the crowd does have some merit, I would question how good it is if potential customers are just remembering me as an idiot.

I think window cleaning marketing is more about balance than about being totally over the top as
"Mr Shinycleangleamingbrightpearlycrystalpurityamwaysalesperson" who can talk the talk and whose farts don't smell.  It is as much about an image of being "Mr Veryexperiencedcompetenthonestwhowon'tnickyourtellyorogleintoyourhouse".
 

Sorry.  Just thought I would have a bit of fun with the subject.

[Kate2]

Hi Form B

Im not sure myself in all honesty.

Its only through experience that these issues seem to arise, and if providing a service can make anyones business function more efficiently........

[concept]

Just pay the fees like any other advertiser does on here...

I am fed up with people coming on here trying to flog their wares to us without contributing to the running costs of the board, and trying to make money from the back of us.

My point regarding marketing budgets, is, that whilst we all may spend a little on leaflets and google or whatever, the kind of money that involves serious marketing just isn't there.

Say you spend £500 on marketing, how much would you need to see back to see a good return on your money? 2x? 3x? Even just to cover itself, £500 is a lot of work, be it commercial, or domestic,

The majority of people on this board are small businesses, who can't spend serious money on marketing, and do it themselves.

Granted, some on here aren't, and they may be the ones you need to find and contact, but I would do it subtely, or, pay for an advert.

[Dave Willis]

I understand where Concept is coming from even if he was a little rude perhaps. The most irritating things these days are cold callers and telesales. Every single day of the week my phone goes off off some foreign numpty on the other end is trying to sell me something. Some of their sales pitches are laughable but all follow the same pattern.
Kate you come across as trying to help us but admit it - your only interest on here is making money?
Because of that some of us get irritated by it. Hope you understand but that's just the way it is.