[Matthew Bateman]

I prefer to run mine high to be honest. I like good flow and thorough rinsing.

Each to their own though mate 

[luther1]

You can run a pump without a controller and without bypass back to the tank. Just so long as it has a pressure switch fitted such as the Flojets on Gardiners website.


If you have a tap on your pole when you turn it off the pressure switch on the pump turns that off.

In one of my vans i have a 60psi Shurflo and run it exactly how Matt said. Its been the same since i bought the van in 2003 and no problems as of yet.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Bear in mind that your pump will be running at full throttle all the time- draining battery more AND the flow will reduce as your pole goes higher.

I've run both systems & I would NEVER go back to a bypass, Digital varistream all day long! Never let me down in three years & performs perfect day in day out & because it uses only the minimum power required I can run direct from 12v cig' lighter socket ALL day.

Hi Winp, I notice that you have a digi varistream. Do you know how the settings work on the control buttons? Ive tried holding - and + buttons down and turning on/off etc but still seems to be running too fast.
Cheers in advance
Kev

Yes Klean, You mean the cut off value yes?  I assume you know the default view is the flow rate setting?

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

I prefer to run mine high to be honest. I like good flow and thorough rinsing.

Each to their own though mate 

 

I prefer mine perfect.

[luther1]

You can run a pump without a controller and without bypass back to the tank. Just so long as it has a pressure switch fitted such as the Flojets on Gardiners website.


If you have a tap on your pole when you turn it off the pressure switch on the pump turns that off.

In one of my vans i have a 60psi Shurflo and run it exactly how Matt said. Its been the same since i bought the van in 2003 and no problems as of yet.

Btw,in my other van,in two years,i've had 3 pumps and one controller(Ionics) and replaced with Gardiners pump and controller and have had no probs since.

[Klean07]

Yes but after Ive done the button pressing etc it still seems too fast even on no1 lowest.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Yes but after Ive done the button pressing etc it still seems too fast even on no1 lowest.

Ok Klean

Just to compare- All my pipework is standard 1/2" garden hose up to reel which is 90m of 8mm minibore. My flow setting is 1 & my cut off setting is 7 (6 in summer). I get a lovely, constant flow which cuts off about 4 seconds after I disconnect my pole & starts back up almost immediately on re connection with no big fat burst of water.

Press & hold both + & - buttons in together for 3 seconds. This will display the cut off value which ranges from 1 to 9 then A to F (roughly) don't ask me why both numbers & letters. To alter the displayed setting you must then press & hold these two buttons in again for another 3 seconds. The display will now flash & you can alter the value up or down using + or -. The higher the value the more pressure will build up before the pump cuts out.

Now, to KEEP this setting as default you must turn the unit off then back on again, if you don't do this the unit will remain unaltered at what it was before.  Repeat this process until you've found what works for you & your personal set up/equipment.

Does that help?

[Peter Fogwill]

You can run a pump without a controller and without bypass back to the tank. Just so long as it has a pressure switch fitted such as the Flojets on Gardiners website.


If you have a tap on your pole when you turn it off the pressure switch on the pump turns that off.

You can indeed Matt BUT it runs at full all the time & IMO the pumps own pressure switch isn't a patch on the electronic one.

You can use a relay to work with the pump pressure switch, with the relay doing most of the work.  The controller is a waste of time and money the way I used to work.  Most people I have come across that are using the controller use it on full power, so they are in effect using a £90 item to do the same thing as a £4.00 relay.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

[dave0123]

I have a return to tank it come like that when installed. it defiently does decrease the flow higher the pole specially wen your batterys is getting a bit flat.

Only problem i find with the return to tank tap is just a slight move doesnt half change the flow. but when using the varistream (i have only used the old dail types) you really can get exact amount of water you want per min or whatever

[Klean07]

FAO Winp,
Yes explanation sounds good, but I've got normal garden hose from tank to pump, then same again from pump to di, then same again from di to my 90 metre reel hose, however my hose on the reel is 6mm microbore. Then I had a reducer from garden hose to 6mm microbore on end of reel to enable me to use hoselock connectors for my poles etc. The main problem Ive been having is that because pressure was too high it was forcing the reducer part to disconect every few mins or so.

Ive now changed connectors to the push-fit ones by the way but havent tried it yet.
Kev

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

FAO Winp,
Yes explanation sounds good, but I've got normal garden hose from tank to pump, then same again from pump to di, then same again from di to my 90 metre reel hose, however my hose on the reel is 6mm microbore. Then I had a reducer from garden hose to 6mm microbore on end of reel to enable me to use hoselock connectors for my poles etc. The main problem Ive been having is that because pressure was too high it was forcing the reducer part to disconect every few mins or so.

Ive now changed connectors to the push-fit ones by the way but havent tried it yet.
Kev

Exactly the same set up as mine Klean but I have TWO DI's & 8mm reel hose.

It seems that a varistream works much better with 8mm hose than 6.

From my tank to my DI's I used 1/2" barbed elbows for all bends, these are only secured by plastic tie wrap not jubilee clips. They've never even leaked let alone blown off, that's how little pressure is required in my system. This is one of the many reasons I don't use 6mm hose.

[Dave Willis]

I have 6mm microbore and have used three different pumps over the years they all tended to settle around near maximum pressure and very near maximum flow. I think 6mm is too restrictive to be honest and makes the pump work far too hard. If I change anything this year I think it will be my hose.

[Klean07]

Ok thanks for that wimp. I changed hose bcus everyone kept saying how good 6mm was. Oh well something to think about anyway. Cheers.

[Matthew Bateman]

Its Winpro not wimp I think you'll find. Dont want no underhand insults or Perfect'll start moaning again 

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Its Winpro not wimp I think you'll find. Dont want no underhand insults or Perfect'll start moaning again 

 

It's winp the wimp

[andyM]

Have to agree with Peter Fogwill. If I was doing it again I would not use a flow controller because I find these days I keep mine on the same high setting anyway so effectively im just using it as an inline power on-off switch. A tap on the pole hose is a must though and just let the pump pressure switch do the work. I recently burned a Shurflo pressure switch out but replaced it with a Maplin microswitch for around £1.50.
Each to their own but I don't think I would buy another flow controller again.

[Peter Fogwill]

Have to agree with Peter Fogwill. If I was doing it again I would not use a flow controller because I find these days I keep mine on the same high setting anyway so effectively im just using it as an inline power on-off switch. A tap on the pole hose is a must though and just let the pump pressure switch do the work. I recently burned a Shurflo pressure switch out but replaced it with a Maplin microswitch for around £1.50.
Each to their own but I don't think I would buy another flow controller again.

AJM why don't you fit a relay? you won't burn out the pressure switch again.  The relays are very heavy duty but if they do burn out they are much easier to replace than the microswitch.  I am sure there is a diagram of the wiring on my forum.

The pump controllers are just very expensive PWM's with built in pressure switches.

Peter

[andyM]

I already have a motor speed control flow controller Peter, its an old style one with none of the fancy digital controls to go wrong.
The pressure switch I referred to is on top of the Shurflo pump and I probably go through about 1 every 8 to 12 months.
They are only about £1.50 from Maplins and I can change one in about 10 mins so not really a problem Peter.

[Mike 108]

I already have a motor speed control flow controller Peter, its an old style one with none of the fancy digital controls to go wrong.
The pressure switch I referred to is on top of the Shurflo pump and I probably go through about 1 every 8 to 12 months.
They are only about £1.50 from Maplins and I can change one in about 10 mins so not really a problem Peter.

AJM/Anybody

Hi,

Can you please give me a part number for the pressure switch that you are buying from Maplins?

Also, how does it fit to the top of the Shurflo pump - is it identical? Do you have to seperate the 'pressure pad' from the switch (if you know what I mean)

Thanks.

Mike