[andrewwebb1]

To all those with hot WFP how much quicker on average would you say it is compared with cold.
Apart from being able to work in lower temperatures would you say it is worth the investment.

Cheers,

Andy.

[darren clarke]

yea,  i use an element, but have been filling up with hot for the last few months,  its just nicer and easier to work with,   

[Nathanael Jones]

Its quicker on first cleans & irregular work,.. cladding cleans & conservatory roofs etc. For monthly windows there is very little speed benefit though,.. just makes the hoses easier to work with.

[james44]

Also hot water can spot more than cold water!

[Peter Fogwill]

To all those with hot WFP how much quicker on average would you say it is compared with cold.
Apart from being able to work in lower temperatures would you say it is worth the investment.

Cheers,

Andy.

It not quicker on regular maintenance cleans, that’s then marketing working from the manufacturers for you to assume that.

Heated water can be quicker on first cleans, but not always and it’s also useful to have for certain types of dirt, but you can use a detergent with cold water which is better than heated water alone anyway.

Look at the cleaning cycles on your washing machine, some won’t even use warm water, but they will use a detergent.

Depending on how you use heated water the question could also be how much longer does it take to clean.

Well Ewan, I have been telling people that for years and just recently have been corrected by two separate customers.  These two customers had my Hotwash trolley out on trial and both had not heard any marketing bumf that it was supposed to be quicker or use less water, but that was what both of them reported back, along with the hoses been easier to manage.  Do you use hot water yourself?  If so I am interested in the detergents you use, what are they?

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

[Poles R Us]

yea,  i use an element, but have been filling up with hot for the last few months,  its just nicer and easier to work with,   

i think it cleans better ,not so much scrubbing

[Matthew Bateman]

Look at the cleaning cycles on your washing machine, some won’t even use warm water, but they will use a detergent.

That's because a washing machine has to allow for allsorts of different fabrics.


Try washing a jumper at 60 °C and see how your theory stacks up.

[Poles R Us]

my misses did and now you could fit in it with me

[cozy]

To all those with hot WFP how much quicker on average would you say it is compared with cold.
Apart from being able to work in lower temperatures would you say it is worth the investment.

Cheers,

Andy.

It not quicker on regular maintenance cleans, that’s then marketing working from the manufacturers for you to assume that.

Heated water can be quicker on first cleans, but not always and it’s also useful to have for certain types of dirt, but you can use a detergent with cold water which is better than heated water alone anyway.

Look at the cleaning cycles on your washing machine, some won’t even use warm water, but they will use a detergent.

Depending on how you use heated water the question could also be how much longer does it take to clean.

So Ewan, the company you work for doesn't really bother selling hot systems then, or are they pushing you to promote their cold system ? I mean, you aren't really a window cleaner, so that's the only reason I can see for you posting in this thread.

[Newannaive]

of course its better and quicker, you would'nt wash your hands in cold water would you? it would take take at least twice as long to remove the grime 

[cozy]

Yes Ewan, but when will you stop giving advice about stuff you've never actually done and become a window cleaner? Why not just give up the job and start your own window cleaning business? Then you could post on here and make sense. Just a thought......

[tomy jackson]

ewwwan used to work for brodx who slaged hot till thay started to sell hot ,any way no one takes any notice of himmm  as black is wihte till you agre with him

[cozy]

ewwwan used to work for brodx who slaged hot till thay started to sell hot ,any way no one takes any notice of himmm  as black is wihte till you agre with him

Yes Tomy, but he likes to pretend he has a business and pretend he doesn't work for Brodex. Funny old world with funny people like him in it. :

[Matthew Bateman]

So why did you email me Dozy when youd booked your eurostar tickets to say you were visiting and that you were going to pop in and spend a day or two with Ewan over Xmas?


Sounds like you've changed your plans now?

[cozy]

So why did you email me Dozy when youd booked your eurostar tickets to say you were visiting and that you were going to pop in and spend a day or two with Ewan over Xmas?


Sounds like you've changed your plans now?

Stop it Bateman  :

[Peter Fogwill]

Well Ewan, I have been telling people that for years and just recently have been corrected by two separate customers.  These two customers had my Hotwash trolley out on trial and both had not heard any marketing bumf that it was supposed to be quicker or use less water, but that was what both of them reported back, along with the hoses been easier to manage.  Do you use hot water yourself?  If so I am interested in the detergents you use, what are they?

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

Peter I agree with what you have been saying for years, I don’t see why that should change just because you have decided to sell a heated system.

Hi again Ewan.  I have not changed my mind because I have decided to sell hot systems.  I decided to sell hot systems because of the weather changing for the worse in the last two winters.  I had people coming to my workshop last January that hadn't been able to work with their system for 6 weeks, and that is the reason I decided to go hot.  I also wanted to give them something that was much less money to buy than £2000, as most of the people in trouble last year could never have afforded to pay out that sort of money.

I am always open to change, and don't mind admitting when I have been wrong.  I was looking at it from the angle that the results were the same hot verses cold, and it was brought to my attention that although the results ARE the same, the amount of water and the time is reduced in achieving they same results.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

[GB Window Cleaning]

if next winter is bad, im saving for a hot water fed pole set up if they can work down to -6c as seems to be the case, from what others have said on here! 

[NWH]

A cold system at the moment is almost unusable a hot 1 will keep you working,that in itself should be enough to make you buy 1.My advise to any serious newbie would be to start off with hot,and as for it spotting more that made me LMAO.

[GB Window Cleaning]

@ NWH...

Whats the lowest temp you have worked down to with your hot system ?

[cozy]

How do you know Ewan? You aren't a window cleaner.