[GB Window Cleaning]

okay the title says it all.

Im just wanting to know what is the lowest temp you can use water fed pole at?

Before you all start luaghing at me thinking this is obviously 0c (freezing point) is it really? or can you get away with -1 perhaps, or even -2?

I know the wind chill factor as to be taken into consideration. so for sake of aurgument, lets assume were basing our thoery on a still day (0mph wind)

Regards g.b

[GB Window Cleaning]

also for the sake of aurgument lets assume were basing our thoery on an average, un-central heated 3 bed semi.

[GB Window Cleaning]

i'll assume from the lack of responses that this is an abvious question after all! 

So were all decided then...Water frezzes at freezing point 0c end of?

[TomCrowther]

You should try on your own house. I think -2 is workable but maybe not too safe as the water will freeze on the ground which is colder still. At -2 I found the upstairs fine, but the downstairs windows have already got frozen water on coming from the upstairs drips etc. They need a good scrub to clear again. 0 degrees is not too bad at all in comparison, put some rock salt down and away you go.
If I was the customer and the WC was leaving the windows frozen over I would not be too happy.

[darren clarke]

i am trying to do my own windows  the water is hot in tank and has been on since 8 am  van is at side of house and the water is traveling at most 10 m and is frozen before it is hitting the windows

the temp here is 0 to -5 according to bbc

[GB Window Cleaning]

You should try on your own house. I think -2 is workable but maybe not too safe as the water will freeze on the ground which is colder still. At -2 I found the upstairs fine, but the downstairs windows have already got frozen water on coming from the upstairs drips etc. They need a good scrub to clear again. 0 degrees is not too bad at all in comparison, put some rock salt down and away you go.
If I was the customer and the WC was leaving the windows frozen over I would not be too happy.

-2 is probably workable because the heat from the house isnt it!? as its been discussed before!

I know what you mean about upstairs fine but downstairs freezing from waters drops  i just assumed they must be frozen upstairs too but i coudlnt tell if upstairs was water on the glass or ice! hope that makes sence!?

Thanks.

[Alex Allen]

mate look at the number of days you cant work each year because of the cold

its really easy to catch up the lost money usually done by jan aways done by feb

the weather is a nusance but it shouldnt cost you lost revenue

you need to look at your working method rather than try and work in minus 0 degree weather

[GB Window Cleaning]

mate look at the number of days you cant work each year because of the cold

its really easy to catch up the lost money usually done by jan aways done by feb

the weather is a nusance but it shouldnt cost you lost revenue

you need to look at your working method rather than try and work in minus 0 degree weather

Maybe you have a point there

Thanks, george

[Richard iSparkle]

We worked yesterday at -4 with absolutely no problems, just a bit slower as 5 inch snow on the ground.  Today the first cleans were at -6 which was ok, and when as the day warmed up got like normal.  I think we could work all day at -5, but it is borderline.  Somewhere around there and lower the van inside starts to freeze up and i start to worry about the R/O filter.

We use a hot water system heated with LPG.

[GB Window Cleaning]

We worked yesterday at -4 with absolutely no problems, just a bit slower as 5 inch snow on the ground.  Today the first cleans were at -6 which was ok, and when as the day warmed up got like normal.  I think we could work all day at -5, but it is borderline.  Somewhere around there and lower the van inside starts to freeze up and i start to worry about the R/O filter.

We use a hot water system heated with LPG.

thats with a hot water fed pole though isnt it? im only using a cold w.f.p!

[Mist A Bit]

i think the wind chill has a big part to play as my cold system was ok at -4 for half hour, put pole in the van for 5 mins with heater blowing and carried on for another half hour. pain in the a but i`ve been earning money. def hot water for next year though.

steve

[GB Window Cleaning]

@ eco-clean
  your cold system was ok at -4? wow

Maybe the property you was cleaning was very hot inside 

[Sir Squeaky]

It's random. There is no set temperature.

I've worked fine at -4 or so.
But i've had it freeze solid at -1.

[GB Window Cleaning]

good point squeaky!

There are too many variables involved to give one percise answer!

[davids3511]

mate look at the number of days you cant work each year because of the cold

its really easy to catch up the lost money usually done by jan aways done by feb

the weather is a nusance but it shouldnt cost you lost revenue

you need to look at your working method rather than try and work in minus 0 degree weather

If you can catch up then you are not working hard enough the rest of the year as you have so much slack.

[GB Window Cleaning]

mate look at the number of days you cant work each year because of the cold

its really easy to catch up the lost money usually done by jan aways done by feb

the weather is a nusance but it shouldnt cost you lost revenue

you need to look at your working method rather than try and work in minus 0 degree weather

If you can catch up then you are not working hard enough the rest of the year as you have so much slack.

Very good point! i have personaly got plenty of time to catch up because ive not got a full round (and never will have if i spend all day on here  )

but for those who have full rounds its surley impossible? unless you do saturdays and sundays, assuming you dont work the weekend already!

[Mist A Bit]

@ eco-clean
  your cold system was ok at -4? wow

Maybe the property you was cleaning was very hot inside 

it did work ok but i ment to say their was no wind chill witch i think would have froze it

[GB Window Cleaning]

also i find that in subzero temps water tends to still freeze on the fames and sills even if it doesnt freeze on the glass!
Im assuming this is because the frames and especially the sills arnt getting any heat from inside the building!

[Alex Allen]

mate look at the number of days you cant work each year because of the cold

its really easy to catch up the lost money usually done by jan aways done by feb

the weather is a nusance but it shouldnt cost you lost revenue

you need to look at your working method rather than try and work in minus 0 degree weather

If you can catch up then you are not working hard enough the rest of the year as you have so much slack.

No slack i know what i am doing
people who overload themselves dont know what they are doing

not working hard enough
i have to make the decision to go VAT reg next year, I work alone 

[GB Window Cleaning]

work smarter not harder hey alex? i agree! its not the amount of work/hours you do after all is it, its the amount of money you earn!

as its been said before, anyone can be a busy fool. and its the busy fools who end up devaluing this trade