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GB Window Cleaning

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tempered glass and scappers
« on: December 20, 2010, 10:54:09 am »
is it tempered glass you not supposed to use scappered on its been such a long time since ive used one  :-[

Dave Willis

Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 11:36:46 am »
Scappers? Not seen one of those yet.  ???

james44

Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 12:26:05 pm »
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is it tempered glass you not supposed to use scappered on its been such a long time since ive used one

Yes you are right GB,

DaveG

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 12:33:55 pm »
Scappers? Not seen one of those yet.  ???

You know Dave, Onne off thosse thinggs for gettting birrd shiit off winddows
You can't polish a turd

G Griffin

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 12:49:33 pm »
is it tempered glass you not supposed to use scappered on its been such a long time since ive used one  :-[

You say scrappers, Adders says scrapers
Adders says traders, you say tradders.
Let`s call the whole thing off.
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GB Window Cleaning

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 09:56:03 pm »
scapers  :-[ sorry, long day yesterday  ;D

@ G Griffin  ;) i know your only joking but i have to say i think there is a big difference between pronouncing words wrong and spelling words wrong. but thats my personal opinion. your post did make me chuckle though so thankyou for that sir and good day to you ;)

deeege

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2010, 10:16:43 pm »
is it tempered glass you not supposed to use scappered on its been such a long time since ive used one  :-[

You say scrappers, Adders says scrapers
Adders says traders, you say tradders.
Let`s call the whole thing off.
:D your quickly becoming my favourite poster griff. ^ made me laugh.
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

G Griffin

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 10:24:15 pm »
scapers  :-[ sorry, long day yesterday  ;D

@ G Griffin  ;) i know your only joking but i have to say i think there is a big difference between pronouncing words wrong and spelling words wrong. but thats my personal opinion. your post did make me chuckle though so thankyou for that sir and good day to you ;)


I know mate, it was just a bit of fun.
You shouldn`t use a scraper on self-cleaning glass but I`m not sure about tempered.
I thought it would be ok but I would find out to be certain.
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G Griffin

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 11:05:38 pm »
is it tempered glass you not supposed to use scappered on its been such a long time since ive used one  :-[

You say scrappers, Adders says scrapers
Adders says traders, you say tradders.
Let`s call the whole thing off.
:D your quickly becoming my favourite poster griff. ^ made me laugh.


Thanks deeege, just too much time on my hands and not doing enough useful things to fill it  ::).
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mistersqueegee

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2010, 11:28:11 pm »
Here in the States we have a problem w/ some tempering companies not doing proper cleaning and maintenance on their tempering furnaces. This leads to a defective surface on some (not all) tempered glass. They try to pass it off as an inherent condition and say it's the scraper when they know as well as anyone else that has had an 8th grade education that the surface of glass is harder than the metal used in scrapers. it's the defects lodged on the surface because of their neglect that causes the problem.
I just get a waiver signed after educating the customer about the problem and explaining that I can't be responsible for their potential defect and there are some types of debris that require a scraper to be used.

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2010, 11:55:11 am »
Here in the States we have a problem w/ some tempering companies not doing proper cleaning and maintenance on their tempering furnaces. This leads to a defective surface on some (not all) tempered glass. They try to pass it off as an inherent condition and say it's the scraper when they know as well as anyone else that has had an 8th grade education that the surface of glass is harder than the metal used in scrapers. it's the defects lodged on the surface because of their neglect that causes the problem.
I just get a waiver signed after educating the customer about the problem and explaining that I can't be responsible for their potential defect and there are some types of debris that require a scraper to be used.

:o Is this thee Mr Squeegy? wow! great to meet you sir, im a big fan of your youtube vids, its an honer!
Best regards G.B


mistersqueegee

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2010, 04:20:12 am »
Thanks for the kind words GB!

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2010, 07:32:27 am »
Thanks for the kind words GB!

my pleasure! there are soo many questions i want to ask you about window cleaning in the subzero temps that i dont know where to start!

first off...

1) ladder saftey: How do you use ladders safely on ice and snow?

2) whats the lowest temp you can use w.f.p at, using additives and not using additives!

Theres many more questions to come, sorry to be a pain!

All the very best, George.

mistersqueegee

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2010, 04:55:48 am »
Hi George, I've used my back pack here at temps of 20F (not very good at metric conversions) w/ about 2 quarts of Iso to 4 1/2 gallons of pure water. When it's above freezing (32F) I can go without anything if I'm not working on a windy day in the shade. I have to say though you guys are so efficient in your use of pure water in cold temps that I'm learning more from you than I could ever teach anyone else.
As for ladders I have a standoff at all times and for uneven ground I use a special ladder leveler called a pivit tool - http://tinyurl.com/2fr2xpg
When there is snow and ice on the ground I use a small shovel or my foot (depends on the situation) to clear the area where my ladder will sit. I use a ladder only if absolutely necessary in all weather conditions but even more so when it's winter weather.
Hope this is helpful.

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2010, 08:44:38 am »
hi mr squeegee

thanks very much for your answers, 20f is -6.6c.

What is iso that you add to pure water?

How does a ladder stand off help with safety?

The pivot tool looks good, although very big  :)

using a shovel is a good idea to make sure the surface is clear of ice and snow!

And to conclude a hate ladders too!  ;D

Many thanks for the replys

All the best and merry xmas, george

mistersqueegee

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2010, 04:56:34 pm »
Hi George, the standoff makes the top of the ladder stable and keeps it from twisting from one side to another. It also keeps you off the wall enough to work w/out having to lean back at all.
ISO is my shorthand for Isopropyl alcohol. I think you guys call it IPA.
The Pivit tool might look big but it can be hung on a ladder rung as you carry it to where you need it.
I could have used my back pack in lower temps but we got a bad cold snap and it went right down to 0F and didn't get back up for a couple of weeks so I brought my wfp gear inside for the next couple of months. Back to trad till March for me.

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2010, 05:44:22 pm »
Hi mr squeegee

And thanks again for the reply.

So i take it Isopropyl alcohol does not leave water mark behind as i always thought you couldnt add anything to pure water as it would kind of defeat the object, hence the word pure!?!?

many thanks friend, George.

P.s if you travel to the west coast c.a be sure to check in on the "Gracie Academy"

mistersqueegee

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2010, 06:30:20 pm »
ISO will not leave anything behind unless you are dealing w/ really high concentrations. I've used up to 40% w/ no spotting issues.

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2010, 08:25:00 pm »
thanks mr squeegee

Is it financially viable would you say though, to use iso?

And i presume the mixture tds reads .0 ppm? (as long as its not used at more than 40% iso 60 pure water)

mistersqueegee

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Re: tempered glass and scappers
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2010, 12:34:30 am »
It is for me considering that if I don't use it I can't work. The ISO costs me $2 a quart.