[bobplum]

i cant belive that if you wfp a property and you praise the WFP GODS you suddenly decide,because of a lost day or twos production you now "BELIVE" its ok to back to  trad
if you turned up at my house after convincing me about the benefits of wfp and going back to trad id ask you not to come back as i would think it was unacceptable especially if you had put the price up when converting from trad to wfp

i would like to stay and debate but my van systems needs thawing failing that i will need to look for my wagtail

[Count Phil]

No, it should have been stated that a ladder shouldn't be used unless there is no alternative. In theses conditions wfp is more dangerous. So a ladder is acceptable.

[woody1]

i am with you bob i smell a load of bull mate they tell custy's ladders are now banned but get the ladders out when they freez up quite funny if you ask me

[Sir Squeaky]

I'm not aware of anyone getting ladders out. I certainly won't be. Got no way of carrying them anyway.

[mick hay]

Ooooooo! There's some angry people on here lol

I'm WFP, and still am in this weather.

Why is it that there is such a divide between trad and WFP? So what if someone gets their ladders out, it's up to them
 

[Paul Coleman]

i cant belive that if you wfp a property and you praise the WFP GODS you suddenly decide,because of a lost day or twos production you now "BELIVE" its ok to back to  trad
if you turned up at my house after convincing me about the benefits of wfp and going back to trad id ask you not to come back as i would think it was unacceptable especially if you had put the price up when converting from trad to wfp

i would like to stay and debate but my van systems needs thawing failing that i will need to look for my wagtail

Hypocrisy is my middle name.  But I didn't get the ladders off anyway 

[LWC]

Ladders are you kidding? Theyre banned! And in the ice its a prisonable offence

[clearlyclean]

Dont understand why you would want to go up ladders in this weather unless your a trady  : I dont think no other alternative would wash if you had a accident,the alternative in Icy weather is sit it out.

[kris martin]

ladders are a definate no no in this weather :

[Ian Lancaster]

You lot have no bottle :

Now when I were a lad I were told I weren't a shiner unless I could set me ladder on sloping ice, with only one style end on the wall, then run up it and stand on the very top rung with a bucket of boiling water (to stop it freezing on't'glass) in one 'and and me squeegee in t'other and me scrim in me teeth.

I could do it an' all, but 'ad ter stop in 1978 when some silly b****r tripped over me ladder and knocked me off.

Never been the same since

[clearlyclean]

save the dangerous sports for the weekend 

[chopsie]

I never told my customers any bull benefits of wfp. Just asked them if they want a window cleaner or not!! If any bothered to even ask how I did it I told them. Never told them any rubbish about ladders being banned, or that it cleans better.

[G Griffin]

You lot have no bottle :

Now when I were a lad I were told I weren't a shiner unless I could set me ladder on sloping ice, with only one style end on the wall, then run up it and stand on the very top rung with a bucket of boiling water (to stop it freezing on't'glass) in one 'and and me squeegee in t'other and me scrim in me teeth.

I could do it an' all, but 'ad ter stop in 1978 when some silly b****r tripped over me ladder and knocked me off.

Never been the same since

Luxury. When I were a lad.....

[barry mallett]

this weather was a big part of why i went wfp . so no chance of getting the ladders out. it seems its the guys who let there gear freeze up that get the ladders out. simple dont let your gear freeze . never lost a day to frozen gear (i am cold water ) . this weather if you get out between 10-2  you can still keep on top of your work .

[LWC]

I WFP'd tops, and downs that were in sun, the windows that were in shade froze quick so traded them and traded doors and windows with any pathways below.

[Frankybadboy]

i got me ladders out today,no problems at all,NO it wasnt dangeous no ice on the gound otherwise i would have not done them.

i never told any of my custys that ladders where banned,just said i use them when and where i feel the need.

now how does that make me a hypocrite.bear in mind i done trad for a 5 years before i went wfp.and now i still only do 75%wfp

[barry mallett]

if there was no ice or snow issues for you , then itwas pointless you  replying. as it would have just been a normal work day

[Frankybadboy]

i just wonder how the hell some of these guys would have made a living 15/20 years ago when ther was no wfp.

[barry mallett]

when i was on the ladders in this weather , digging in the grass or dirt no problem , get the lad to foot it on owt else , never stopped me . but i still found myself taking risks, thinking im invincible . used to fall more on the paths carrying a ladder and bucket    now i dont need the lad to foot owt , and got hands free walking on the paths

[Newannaive]

ladders? in this?  :