[Panorama]

hi dazmond, i seriously thinking about getting a pure freedom trolley ( 25 or 50 lt yet to decide ) and im looking for some advice.
1 live in a hard water area do i only need a RO
2 whats the difference between Choice of 200, 300 or 450 GPD Reverse Osmosis System & 10" DI
3 is the vikan brush good or given a choice would you buy something else
4 whats it like for getting off stubborn bird crap
5 what resin would i need
sorry for been thick lol

[Lee GLS]

hi dazmond, i seriously thinking about getting a pure freedom trolley ( 25 or 50 lt yet to decide ) and im looking for some advice.
1 live in a hard water area do i only need a RO
2 whats the difference between Choice of 200, 300 or 450 GPD Reverse Osmosis System & 10" DI
3 is the vikan brush good or given a choice would you buy something else
4 whats it like for getting off stubborn bird crap
5 what resin would i need
sorry for been thick lol

thought i would butt in to help

1.yes
2. GDP is gallons per day (US) production rate, 10" DI is the resin vessel that goes after the ro, you need both
3. vikan brush is good some may say its too heavy and go for a gardiners supa lite,
4. a momo brush would have good scrubbing power
5. Tusulin resin is regarded as the best, then dowex, dont touch purolite


lee

[Panorama]

thanks lee, how long have you been wfp and is it a steep learning curve

[dazmond]

hi panorama i cant comment on the first 2 questions as im in a soft water area so a simple DI for me.

as for the vikan brush i have the rectangle mono which is great for first cleans but too heavy IMO to use all day every day.i use a supalite dual trim flocked for regular maintenance cleans.all boils down to personal choice though at the end of the day.

as for stubborn bird crap the trick is to give it a little soak then clean another couple of windows and come back to it and usually it just melts away!very occasionally i use the brush stock to give it a slight rub if it wont come off.

tulsion mb 115 resin


is it a steep learning curve?yes!but well worth it!!im in my 6 month wfp and would never go back to the ladders!

i would get the 50L TROLLEY if you have big runs of compact work and planning on using the trolley as your main system.

im so glad i didnt get the 25L AS ID BE CHANGING BARRELS TWICE AS OFTEN!!

a full trolley will last me about an hour before needing barrels changing where if i had the 25L IT WOULD BE HALF AN HOUR!!



dazmond

[Panorama]

Hi dazmond thanks for the reply. At the moment I've only got a small customer base ( 30 ). So I'm thinking I may as well take the plunge now rather than a years time, this way I can take my time and learn the correct methods. Do you think this is a good idea. Does it work on all types of frames ( wood , metal )

[dazmond]

well ive got a customer base of 340 and only lost 3 due to them not liking the pole.to be fair i did get a fair few complaints and i made a right mess of some windows!but my custies gave me a few chances as ive been cleaning a lot of them for over 10 years.

its easier to make a mess of windows with wfp esp when you dont know what to look out for!!

runs down the middle of a large sheet of glass below 2 openers were a nightmare first cleans!


runs from the odd rubber seal still happens occasionally.


drips from the top frames if there not properly clean and/or left to stop dripping before cleaning the pane below.

oxidised frames can spot the glass.

flakey old wooden windows dont always come up good either.


but all in all id say 90-95 % of windows come up good after the first 3 cleans are out of the way.i still get the odd run or faint spotting occasionally but you learn to minimize it.



dazmond

[Panorama]

hi dazmond, did you go to pure freedom to have a look before making your decision? and what advice did they give you. do you have to buy the resin or do they they supply it with the new purchase. what is cost of  the supalite dual trim flocked ( £600 ? ) and i will think of other questions lol

[Lee GLS]

thanks lee, how long have you been wfp and is it a steep learning curve

i have been doing it a month now, it is strange really, had a few butterflys on my belly on the first couple of houses but its the norm now, feels strange going up a ladder now. the best thing is not to rush, get you head around the fact the the first couple of months are going to be slow getting around your owrk and you will be fine. i am enjoying working now, was getting fed up before changing over, it has given me renewed enthuisam for the job. you do start to learn pretty quickly the best way and quicker way of doing things.

[Jackal]

sorry to butt in,have you lost any custys yet lee ,looking to change myself some day

[Panorama]

thanks lee, thats why i decided to go wfp now ( only have 30 customers ) so i can take  my time and learn the techniques. another reason is one of my customers has asked me for a gutter/fascia/soffet  clean in the spring. they look very awkward to do if using my ladders.  i do one house that is a nightmare, all leaded on the front, conservatory on the back ( which is tight upto fence on one side and have to take off my belt to squeeze down) and decking under one window which is starting to get dicey.

[lozsing]

I lost 1 customer out of 300

[Lee GLS]

sorry to butt in,have you lost any custys yet lee ,looking to change myself some day

No, i have done 3 of my 4 weeks work and everybody has been great, a couple have been a little scepticle, but have still had it done. best way i find is to reassure them that if there is any spotting (which there ishouldnt be) that i will come and redo them if they are not happy. I had 1 customer who sent a cheque with a not just to say there were a coupkle of runs which came from vents in the window, they were not complaining, they were jsut giving me feedback, but i went and re did the windows in question, which they were pleased with but wernt expecting me to re do them, but they were really happy with wfp, liked the frames being cleaned and could see that it does a better job also.

anyway, the response has been good, most happy to have frames cleaned, and alot are happy for us that we are not having to go up ladders (safer working). i have a good relationship with my customers and have been doing them along time, which i think helps with those that are scepticle because the like me and dont want to get rid of me  , because i am a great guy   

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

hi dazmond, i seriously thinking about getting a pure freedom trolley ( 25 or 50 lt yet to decide ) and im looking for some advice.
1 live in a hard water area do i only need a RO
2 whats the difference between Choice of 200, 300 or 450 GPD Reverse Osmosis System & 10" DI
3 is the vikan brush good or given a choice would you buy something else
4 whats it like for getting off stubborn bird crap
5 what resin would i need
sorry for been thick lol

thought i would butt in to help

1.yes
2. GDP is gallons per day (US) production rate, 10" DI is the resin vessel that goes after the ro, you need both
3. vikan brush is good some may say its too heavy and go for a gardiners supa lite,
4. a momo brush would have good scrubbing power
5. Tusulin resin is regarded as the best, then dowex, dont touch purolite


lee

No1 is wrong Lee. This is the problem with too many newbies answering question on here. :

If you live in a hard water area you will need  DI as well as RO.

Regards bob

[Lee GLS]

hi dazmond, i seriously thinking about getting a pure freedom trolley ( 25 or 50 lt yet to decide ) and im looking for some advice.
1 live in a hard water area do i only need a RO
2 whats the difference between Choice of 200, 300 or 450 GPD Reverse Osmosis System & 10" DI
3 is the vikan brush good or given a choice would you buy something else
4 whats it like for getting off stubborn bird crap
5 what resin would i need
sorry for been thick lol

thought i would butt in to help

1.yes
2. GDP is gallons per day (US) production rate, 10" DI is the resin vessel that goes after the ro, you need both
3. vikan brush is good some may say its too heavy and go for a gardiners supa lite,
4. a momo brush would have good scrubbing power
5. Tusulin resin is regarded as the best, then dowex, dont touch purolite


lee

No1 is wrong Lee. This is the problem with too many newbies answering question on here. :

If you live in a hard water area you will need  DI as well as RO.

Regards bob

sorry that was my mistake,  i read the question wrong, of course you need a ro as well, 

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

Nice to see some honesty

You are correct with the others tho

[mark dew]

my tap water is 450ppm+ and only 5ppm after the ro. I have disconnected the di vessel now. I reckon as long as your ro produces water at less than 10-ppm you won't need di vessel.

[Lee GLS]

my tap water is 450ppm+ and only 5ppm after the ro. I have disconnected the di vessel now. I reckon as long as your ro produces water at less than 10-ppm you won't need di vessel.

What's your tap pressure and what to do you have

[mark dew]

i dunno about tap pressure but i use a 300gpd ro with booster pump. It will fill a rain water butt in about 5 hours with the booster. About a day and a half without.