[Alex Allen]

Hi  Winp®oClean,

Just to answer your observation on the aerial brush, we've been using vikan brushes for the last 6 years. Gave the aerial brush a try a few weeks ago, now all our poles have them on.

It is a light weight small brush and the pictures on their site don't reflect how good this brush is. The splay looks outrageous, I thought like you did. BUT when pushed against glass cleans perfectly and easy to control, we have found it cleans the top edges and corners of frames more thoroughly than the vikan, also found when wiping the sill it cleans out that little gap with ease.   It's a brush you have to try to realise how good it it.

Steve G

stay with pencils mate and get the aerial brush
i thought i get behind with work this week because of the weather
had the aerial brush on this week and im in front
got just 3 jobs to do friday best brush i have ever used
i will never clean my customers windows with a vikan again

I don't know how experienced you are Alex so this is not a dig. I agree that the Vikans are too heavy (although lovely action with the flocked) BUT that aerial brush might be light but the splay looks outrageous!! Kind of, fling it about & hope for the best? There can be no accuracy at all with so much splay?

hi sure clean
i read your email on the site
Ive just got the black nylon brush not had a chance to use it yet
have you used yours yet and whats it like for first cleans?

cheers Alex

[Sure Cleaning]

Hi Alex,

Yes, we have used the black nylon for first cleans and found it a little quicker and more efficient than the vikan. However, unless the glass and frames are really bad we have been using the red nylon brush for all cleans and find it works great.

Good luck with your new brushes.

Steve G

[Alex Allen]

ok thanks steve

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Alex/Sure cleaning

(without starting a huge debate )

I don't clean the top frame so I need a brush that is VERY accurate with the ability to bend back the top rows of bristles against the top beading. If you understand what I mean, would this brush still be suitable for such a method?

Regards

Winp

[Alex Allen]

you dont clean the top every time you mean 
i know what you mean but you dont need to do that
you will have the window clean with the aerial brush which is mm perfect
by the time you mess around working like that

The brush is great mate any new people coming into window cleaning using these brushes
will be cleaning faster inside of 3 months than any experienced window cleaners

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

you dont clean the top every time you mean 
i know what you mean but you dont need to do that
you will have the window clean with the aerial brush which is mm perfect
by the time you mess around working like that

The brush is great mate any new people coming into window cleaning using these brushes
will be cleaning faster inside of 3 months than any experienced window cleaners

No, I mean I don't, never clean the top frame. Much of my work is country mansions, stately homes etc. Top frames aren't an option. Old paint, wood & sandstone don't mix well!

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

you dont clean the top every time you mean 
i know what you mean but you dont need to do that
you will have the window clean with the aerial brush which is mm perfect
by the time you mess around working like that

The brush is great mate any new people coming into window cleaning using these brushes
will be cleaning faster inside of 3 months than any experienced window cleaners

What are you comparing the aerial brush to Alex? If it's just Vikans then almost any brush will seem perfect!

I currently use
Superlite mono ST
Superlite mono DT
Superlite semi flocked DT 15 degree
I've got & used most of the Vikan range, a facelift, Unger flocked & a few salmons, probably some more but these are what spring to mind.

I've just taken delivery of the pro-window & upon a fondle I'm not impressed, at all! However, I'll try it tomorrow. First things that strike me are weight, a bent stock & the bristles seem stiff, I mean stiff as a board! :

[Mr Bungalow]

Hello,

I have two of the 12inch Pro Window brushes and they are very good indeed.

Infact I think they are the best brushes currently on the market.

Varitech's own design, which they had made by Vikan I think!

regards.

Hello All,

I want to apologise for giving out the wrong info with regards to the Pro Window brush.

I was told by someone at Varitech during the Cleaning Show at the Ricoh centre this year that they where made by Vikan.  He was obviously trying not to let the cat out of the bag too much.

I have since found out that the Pro Window brush is actually designed and made by Hill Brush.

Again my apologies.

Regards.

[Alex Allen]

you dont clean the top every time you mean 
i know what you mean but you dont need to do that
you will have the window clean with the aerial brush which is mm perfect
by the time you mess around working like that

The brush is great mate any new people coming into window cleaning using these brushes
will be cleaning faster inside of 3 months than any experienced window cleaners

What are you comparing the aerial brush to Alex? If it's just Vikans then almost any brush will seem perfect!

I currently use
Superlite mono ST
Superlite mono DT
Superlite semi flocked DT 15 degree
I've got & used most of the Vikan range, a facelift, Unger flocked & a few salmons, probably some more but these are what spring to mind.

I've just taken delivery of the pro-window & upon a fondle I'm not impressed, at all! However, I'll try it tomorrow. First things that strike me are weight, a bent stock & the bristles seem stiff, I mean stiff as a board! :

its compared to everything ive tried and brought
the superlites you metion the vikan and tucker more recently the hill branded brushes are all crap
I wouldnt use any of them now for window cleaning good for cleaning the van conserv roofs and sweeping the floor

[wightsurf]

Which type of brush (aerial) are you using. There's a few to chose from ?

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

BTW, I've now tried the pro-window, it's pants.

Bear in mind that this one was from WCW, they told me they have it made to their spec', (which is shocking if true) I don't believe this to be true. They told me it was 11", it isn't it's a full 12". They told me their jets can be fitted in the other holes, they can't, the holes are too big. The brush looks identical in every way to the standard pro-window brush :

It is almost rigid it's that stiff, very poor. If it is indeed made to "their" spec' it leaves me with no confidence in any of their other products. Not that surprised to be honest, but disappointed that big suppliers are still selling total crap! :

[chopsie]

Mine is really rigid too, and I got mine from polar brite. I am sure the middle bristles will never touch the glass!!
I Suspect alex is some sort of plant from ariel brushes!! Does anyone else actally have any experience of these brushes?

[Dave Willis]

I think Pure Freedom had the same brush? Looks very similar to Gardiners Superlight but feels quite stiff and scratchy with the jets either too far apart or too close (can't remember) with two large holes in the stock for fans I suppose.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Apparently, this pro-window (salmon hillbrush) had input in it's design from a big player in wfp, if this is what they come up with long live Alex Gardiner!!!!!

[chopsie]

I think Pure Freedom had the same brush? Looks very similar to Gardiners Superlight but feels quite stiff and scratchy with the jets either too far apart or too close (can't remember) with two large holes in the stock for fans I suppose.

its the same brush by the sound of it

[[GQC] Tim]

Apparently, this pro-window (salmon hillbrush) had input in it's design from a big player in wfp, if this is what they come up with long live Alex Gardiner!!!!!

I just got the 15 degree flocked dual trim superlite brush in, it's 10/10 for feel!!! What an incredible brush. I will be doing a thorough review on it, but first need to get as much time in with it as possible.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Apparently, this pro-window (salmon hillbrush) had input in it's design from a big player in wfp, if this is what they come up with long live Alex Gardiner!!!!!

I just got the 15 degree flocked dual trim superlite brush in, it's 10/10 for feel!!! What an incredible brush. I will be doing a thorough review on it, but first need to get as much time in with it as possible.

Snap Tim, I got it too. It's superb mate.

Just thought I would try some none-Gardiner brushes the last few weeks, was hoping for better but was dissapointed, big style!

[Sure Cleaning]

Hi Chopsie,

I've been using the aerial brush for 4 weeks now, and have found it to be the best brush I have used in my 6 years of WFP. We have now converted all our poles with this brush.

Richard who sells these brushes is also a windows cleaner and knows his stuff. Like any product until you actually try it for yourself you will never know if it will be suitable for you.

Like any product there will be people who say it's fantastic and others who say rubbish. I like to improve my business and have tried many new products some work some don't. The only way to really know if something is good or bad is to try it for yourself.

Good luck

Steve G

[Jeff Brimble]

Been using this for  a few weeks, its growing on me   as you can do sills with it, its the frquent use one. Dai came over for a look at the Ninja pole and gave me one of his swivels, here is what I did with it. Thanks Dai  

[Lee GLS]

Apparently, this pro-window (salmon hillbrush) had input in it's design from a big player in wfp, if this is what they come up with long live Alex Gardiner!!!!!

I just got the 15 degree flocked dual trim superlite brush in, it's 10/10 for feel!!! What an incredible brush. I will be doing a thorough review on it, but first need to get as much time in with it as possible.

Snap Tim, I got it too. It's superb mate.

Just thought I would try some none-Gardiner brushes the last few weeks, was hoping for better but was dissapointed, big style!

does the duel trim flocked 15deg have mono and flocked bristles? is it an good for rinsing on glass?