[Smudger]

I think some people use the flocked to rinse on the glass, but i think unflocked is better.

i got my pro window brush from cleaning spot and brought the fans from another supplier as it worked out cheaper.

if you buy already assembled then clarify fans before buying

DONT  get those brass ones - they are rubbish, i got some to test and they dont fan the water at all well
and each one sprayed the water in odd directions.

Darran

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

WCW have just got some of these brushes in but designed to their spec'. £20+ vat

[outdoor restore]

What happened to the auto brush - i was going to get 1 but Pete never got back to me, so got an aqua daptor
instead.

if you have spare fan jets put them into a superlite. - no extra cost.  also get decent fan jets - the blue ones are the best for spray pattern.

Darran

Darran
Do you need to remove any bristles from the supalite (I use dual trim non flocked) to allow fans to spray correctly?
I have fan jets in a vikan but pencil jets in the supalites and would prefer to swap them to fans.
Cheers
Neil

[Smudger]

The first brush i converted to fan jets i cut out 1 'bunch' of bristles either side of the jet and shortend the next 2 inner
'bunches' to make sure the spray was not effected ( on this brush i had the fans flush with the stock. )

On my newer brush head i have pushed the jets further through - they are approx 10mm proud ( but they have never
touched the glass ) and these dont require any bristles to be removed.

this is for 40 deg fans - 60's would require some bristle trimming as the arc is wider and shallower.

Darran

[outdoor restore]

Thanks Darran

[Smudger]

no probs

Darran

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Hey Chopsie,

dont worry, this is an excellent brush - very good for 1st cleans and does not seem to re deposit cr@p back
onto the window - i use this with fans for heavily soiled windows/frames and conny roofs.

i use the superlight for reg cleans.

if you the superlite then you will notice a big difference when using these as the bristles are quite square to the
stock so adjustment with the angled goosneck is more critical than with a superlite.

good brush tho - highy reccomend

Darran

How do the superlite & pro-window compare for weight?

[Crystal-clear]

Im a pencil jet guy but come to think of it i do wana give fan jets a go

just someone told me it can make a mess the water goes out and hits brick work etc and drip on the window but if you guys are saying no rinsing involved or less it sounds good.

Which brush shall i get i would like to buy the best on the market of course would like a slightly softer brush too. is the super-light any good?

[Alex Allen]

stay with pencils mate and get the aerial brush
i thought i get behind with work this week because of the weather
had the aerial brush on this week and im in front
got just 3 jobs to do friday best brush i have ever used
i will never clean my customers windows with a vikan again

[dd]

What is so special about the aerial brush?

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

stay with pencils mate and get the aerial brush
i thought i get behind with work this week because of the weather
had the aerial brush on this week and im in front
got just 3 jobs to do friday best brush i have ever used
i will never clean my customers windows with a vikan again

I don't know how experienced you are Alex so this is not a dig. I agree that the Vikans are too heavy (although lovely action with the flocked) BUT that aerial brush might be light but the splay looks outrageous!! Kind of, fling it about & hope for the best? There can be no accuracy at all with so much splay?

[chopsie]

Well my pro brush came today, It came with the cheap budget fans in it, I hooked it all up (why do brushes, in fact anything not come ready to go, had to put pipes on it and nick a Y piece off another brush  :) and the fans did not seem to.....well....fan enough!! My auto brush fanned brilliantly. So it came with holes pre drilled at 12mm to fit other better fans in I bought, So decided to fit them, the holes were just too small so had to drill them out.
I also pulled a line of bristles out so they can actually fan. Tomorrow will be the tester. I wish they would make brushes ready to go properly with fans, tubing etc.

I think from using the auto brush, the fans are in the wrong place ,I do not think they will be as effective being in the centre of the brush like pencils, the autobrush has them near to the top with the second row in of bristles removed all but the last 3 on each end. I would of moved mine there on new brush, but there are already 4 holes in it So was not enough space to drill any more.
Oh and the brush is 12", superlites are 10". So when comparing weights this needs to be taken into account.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Well my pro brush came today, It came with the cheap budget fans in it, I hooked it all up (why do brushes, in fact anything not come ready to go, had to put pipes on it and nick a Y piece off another brush  :) and the fans did not seem to.....well....fan enough!! My auto brush fanned brilliantly. So it came with holes pre drilled at 12mm to fit other better fans in I bought, So decided to fit them, the holes were just too small so had to drill them out.
I also pulled a line of bristles out so they can actually fan. Tomorrow will be the tester. I wish they would make brushes ready to go properly with fans, tubing etc.

I think from using the auto brush, the fans are in the wrong place ,I do not think they will be as effective being in the centre of the brush like pencils, the autobrush has them near to the top with the second row in of bristles removed all but the last 3 on each end. I would of moved mine there on new brush, but there are already 4 holes in it So was not enough space to drill any more.
Oh and the brush is 12", superlites are 10". So when comparing weights this needs to be taken into account.

I ordered the one from WCW, it's the same brush (salmon/hillbrush) but made to "their" spec'. It's 11". Will see how it goes. I've got some specific work where I need a brush with little or no splay. I'm using the new super-lite 15 degree for everything else at the mo'.

[Crystal-clear]

So which is the best fan jet brush i should get  ?

[Smudger]

Crystal - get one of each!

the Pro - window is about 125 grams heavier and has more bristles - excellent for 1st cleans but the superlight cant be beat for regular maintence cleans and when going over big conny's at full stretch

Chopsie - have fun mate - they do work well on the brush centre line

Darran

[Sure Cleaning]

Hi  Winp®oClean,

Just to answer your observation on the aerial brush, we've been using vikan brushes for the last 6 years. Gave the aerial brush a try a few weeks ago, now all our poles have them on.

It is a light weight small brush and the pictures on their site don't reflect how good this brush is. The splay looks outrageous, I thought like you did. BUT when pushed against glass cleans perfectly and easy to control, we have found it cleans the top edges and corners of frames more thoroughly than the vikan, also found when wiping the sill it cleans out that little gap with ease.   It's a brush you have to try to realise how good it it.

Steve G

stay with pencils mate and get the aerial brush
i thought i get behind with work this week because of the weather
had the aerial brush on this week and im in front
got just 3 jobs to do friday best brush i have ever used
i will never clean my customers windows with a vikan again

I don't know how experienced you are Alex so this is not a dig. I agree that the Vikans are too heavy (although lovely action with the flocked) BUT that aerial brush might be light but the splay looks outrageous!! Kind of, fling it about & hope for the best? There can be no accuracy at all with so much splay?

[chopsie]

Looks a bit big for what I need, certainly not light either http://www.aerialbrush.nl/index.php?show=home 

[Sure Cleaning]

 

Just look at the benefits though:

BENEFITS
Using the Aerial Brush you will experience significant benefits when compared to conventional cleaning methods for large façades:

1. Less impact on the environment. Use of osmose water means that far less detergents are needed.

2. Far better working conditions. No intensive manual work at height and no safety risks. The
operator controls the installation.

3. Minimal inconvenience. Up to 10 times faster than conventional cleaning methods.

4. Lower cleaning costs. The automatic system guarantees a well-controlled performance at low operator costs, with a beneficial return on investment as a result

5. Constant quality. Elimination of the human factor.


or you could try the smaller version: http://www.wfp-brush.co.uk/home


Steve G 

[Alex Allen]

What is so special about the aerial brush?

lots of things mate
it dont feel like you have a brush on the pole
you just move your magic wand and the windows are clean 
seriously thouygh mate it works very well im moving all my work to 4 day week
hope to have it done by feb

[Alex Allen]

stay with pencils mate and get the aerial brush
i thought i get behind with work this week because of the weather
had the aerial brush on this week and im in front
got just 3 jobs to do friday best brush i have ever used
i will never clean my customers windows with a vikan again

I don't know how experienced you are Alex so this is not a dig. I agree that the Vikans are too heavy (although lovely action with the flocked) BUT that aerial brush might be light but the splay looks outrageous!! Kind of, fling it about & hope for the best? There can be no accuracy at all with so much splay?

thats ok mate
its the other way round the aerial brush is more accurate to use
better than anything else i have used
difficult to explain but very very easy to use the brush
the only way to explain it
is its the only real wfp window cleaning brush you can get
i have been stopping myself from over cleaning windows all week