[rycalshaw]

hi,i picked up 4 new customers today,apparently they had all sacked their old wc because he went over to wfp and they weren,t happy with the results,thing is,he said that due to e u laws window cleaning with ladders is illegal..why lie

[barry mallett]

why not

[Nathanael Jones]

look closely at the laws,.. it is very hard (though not impossible) to clean from ladders and still be legal. For him, i suspect his statement was true.

[darren clarke]

ladders aint banned,  btu u have an accident on them and see how long it takes for h and s to do u, u  should of used a safer methon ie wfp

[cat9921]

hi,i picked up 4 new customers today,apparently they had all sacked their old wc because he went over to wfp and they weren,t happy with the results,thing is,he said that due to e u laws window cleaning with ladders is illegal..why lie

Ladders are not illegal, But if there is a safer way of cleaning then that should be done , especially now the weather is getting cold and icy

as for why lie I wonder if the customers really did not like the results of the window or LIED and they did not like the windows WET   :

[boldy1304]

i downloaded the working at heights hse regulations it dos clearly state several times no matter what the trade it clearly states and i quote YOU MUST ENSURE THAT NO WORK IS DONE AT HEIGHT IF IT IS SAFE AND REASONABLY PRACTICAL TO DO IT OTHER THAN AT HEIGHT  it then gos on to say an quote you must USE THE MOST SUITABLE EQUIPMENT and to be honest gos on to say various other things so everyone has to make there own mind up i was trade for 12 years been wfp 15 months now i do 1 house trad i wouldnt go back. 2 good mates of mine are still trad and i wouldnt tell custys its against the law i just say if asked that the hse dont really like ladders any more and your spose to use the safest method available ......WFP

[clearlyclean]

the laws on ladder use are as clear as mud,If you choose to ladders and fall off and land on the customers car then your insurance may or may not pay out,I explained this to a lot of customers and rather me use the pole.In the construction industry you are not allowed to carry anything up a ladder and must secured to prevent the ladder slipping,I use water fed pole because it makes economical sense to me and clean is'nt compromised,I clean my own windows with water fed pole and i tell my customers that.If you have an accident on there property then they could be liable to a claim.Maybe from those customers view point he was lying but from the advice of the H &S he is telling the truth. you can walk into any shop and buy a packet of cigs and we all know they are bad for you but still there are people who will ignore the advice,we all know ladders are dangerous if not used correctly but there will always be ones who will stick there head in the sand,I would'nt want those four customers as they have no regard for their W/C safety

[erithwc]

come on please dont make me laugh hse regulation are not enforced plus how many people that clean domestic houses only have been done by hse for first floor window cleaning using trad 

come on lads it's been a while since a wfp vs trad word of wars   fight fight fight

[clearlyclean]

meow.

[ant french]

i told my custys ladders are illegal unless theres 2 of ya, only coz i hate hights and rather use pole system lol  if it makes my life easier why not lie, its only a ickle white one.

[clearlyclean]

what about when the customer says I have no money in the house to pay you and then you see them an half hour later walking out of the paper shop with a packet of cigs

[Nathanael Jones]

hse regulation are not enforced

They are,.. but as is too often the case round these parts, its normally only after the accident.
So,.. you fall, break your neck, spend 12 months in hospital THEN come home to a court case & £5k fine.

[clearlyclean]

ouch and I gone round and nick all your customers while your recovering,I mean gone out of business.I always wonder where all those W/C that stop coming to do the windows have gone? maybe we have the answer

[AuRavelling79]

hi,i picked up 4 new customers today,apparently they had all sacked their old wc because he went over to wfp and they weren,t happy with the results,thing is,he said that due to e u laws window cleaning with ladders is illegal..why lie

If you want to work for customers who care about your safety even less than you do then go ahead ...

[bad trippy]

I tell them of the benefits of WFP, ie much better results plus frames plus stays cleaner longer plus no mashed up render on walls plus no looking in on upstairs plus no digs in lawns etc etc
I tell em i was trad for 14 yrs and that i know the results of both systems and wfp comes out on top
Lastly i tell them my public liability insurence does not cover me for the use of ladders on there property

[AuRavelling79]

hi,i picked up 4 new customers today,apparently they had all sacked their old wc because he went over to wfp and they weren,t happy with the results,thing is,he said that due to e u laws window cleaning with ladders is illegal..why lie

couple around here tell the same lie

Oooh! They're getting closer - pull up the drawbridge Stan! 

[G Griffin]

what about when the customer says I have no money in the house to pay you and then you see them an half hour later walking out of the paper shop with a packet of cigs

Go and tell the owner of the paper shop that they are having cigs stolen.  

[erithwc]

tell your customers that wfp pole isn't aloud because we are on a hose pipe ban 

[clearlyclean]

hi,i picked up 4 new customers today,apparently they had all sacked their old wc because he went over to wfp and they weren,t happy with the results,thing is,he said that due to e u laws window cleaning with ladders is illegal..why lie

couple around here tell the same lie

Oooh! They're getting closer - pull up the drawbridge Stan! 

no need Malc we just nick their vans  

thats where all the vans are going!

[George P]

although ladders are not banned, i would think it is vertualy impossible to justify using them as a normal nowadays, wfp is relativly cheap compared to what it was, i tell customers that i prefer to do the safest proven method as i have a familly at home and dont wont to go home with broken bones or worse, ( i was trad for around 15yrs), ladders are safe when used properly but it only takes one fall. if a customer prefers trad then thats thiere choice, i value mine and my staffs safety, and i believe this is the safest method available known to us, i appreciate that some do prefer trad, but they have to realise times move on,  i would even prefer to use trad sometimes,