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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2010, 03:42:52 pm »
>BFG

Good point! I would normally drop without hesitation but the 5 year gap and the fact that "I know" is intriguing and in an immature sort of way rather enjoyable.

But I do so want to tweak her nose! That's sad I know.

>Helen

You have wise words but I have decided am not going to take this woman back on but I want to let her know that I know so I'll draft a letter to pop through her door saying no.



Good decision.

clearlyclean

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2010, 04:06:40 pm »
who's been doing her windows in the last five years and does she get passed around like a -------

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2010, 04:28:07 pm »
i would of said something like
you messed me around b4
and no doubt av messed others
around thats y youve got no wc lol ;D
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

AuRavelling79

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2010, 04:52:41 pm »
Here's the letter:-

Dear Madam,

Re: Your window cleaning enquiry.

Further to your enquiry yesterday I attended your house to view the windows and to gather information to provide a quotation. The gate was locked and so I was unable to gain access to the rear of your property but as you read on you will see that this is of no consequence.

This is because my visit crystallised in my mind a suspicion that was growing as we were speaking on the corner of B________ Rd. What I remember and you evidently do not is that about five years ago I did clean your windows when Mr. M_________ had asked me in similar circumstances when he pulled up in his car and asked me to quote.

My recollection of events was that I had to pay several visits to obtain payment which in my view should have been sent by return as agreed. Reminders were ignored and I felt completely unappreciated for my work. When I called at your house yet again, you finally paid me and my recollection is that I was given some excuse about one of the upper windows at the back having dirt marks on it but when I asked why I hadn't been told at the time rather than many weeks later no logical answer was forthcoming. I decided when the bill was paid that I would never, ever work for you again.

I am sure you agree that in light of my feelings about the above it would be in both our interests for us not to have a business relationship.

Yours faithfully,
It's a game of three halves!

dai

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2010, 05:06:33 pm »
Gold, in my experience people don't change.You only have to look at your payment records to see that it's the same people that pay late time after time.
I see that she must have had other cleaners since you did them last, what happened to them.
Are you sure she doesn't remember you, or is she so desperate she's not letting on.
I'm with Ewan on this one, and believe you made the right decision in not taking her back on.
ignore your gut instinct at your peril, I know I have regretted not doing so in the past.

Paul Coleman

Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2010, 05:49:07 pm »
Here's the letter:-

Dear Madam,

Re: Your window cleaning enquiry.

Further to your enquiry yesterday I attended your house to view the windows and to gather information to provide a quotation. The gate was locked and so I was unable to gain access to the rear of your property but as you read on you will see that this is of no consequence.

This is because my visit crystallised in my mind a suspicion that was growing as we were speaking on the corner of B________ Rd. What I remember and you evidently do not is that about five years ago I did clean your windows when Mr. M_________ had asked me in similar circumstances when he pulled up in his car and asked me to quote.

My recollection of events was that I had to pay several visits to obtain payment which in my view should have been sent by return as agreed. Reminders were ignored and I felt completely unappreciated for my work. When I called at your house yet again, you finally paid me and my recollection is that I was given some excuse about one of the upper windows at the back having dirt marks on it but when I asked why I hadn't been told at the time rather than many weeks later no logical answer was forthcoming. I decided when the bill was paid that I would never, ever work for you again.

I am sure you agree that in light of my feelings about the above it would be in both our interests for us not to have a business relationship.

Yours faithfully,

Just to make totally sure that she doesn't want you there again, maybe turn up with some mags sometime.  That'll clinch it  ;D

Spruce

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2010, 06:21:02 pm »
Here's the letter:-

Dear Madam,

Re: Your window cleaning enquiry.

Further to your enquiry yesterday I attended your house to view the windows and to gather information to provide a quotation. The gate was locked and so I was unable to gain access to the rear of your property but as you read on you will see that this is of no consequence.

This is because my visit crystallised in my mind a suspicion that was growing as we were speaking on the corner of B________ Rd. What I remember and you evidently do not is that about five years ago I did clean your windows when Mr. M_________ had asked me in similar circumstances when he pulled up in his car and asked me to quote.

My recollection of events was that I had to pay several visits to obtain payment which in my view should have been sent by return as agreed. Reminders were ignored and I felt completely unappreciated for my work. When I called at your house yet again, you finally paid me and my recollection is that I was given some excuse about one of the upper windows at the back having dirt marks on it but when I asked why I hadn't been told at the time rather than many weeks later no logical answer was forthcoming. I decided when the bill was paid that I would never, ever work for you again.

I am sure you agree that in light of my feelings about the above it would be in both our interests for us not to have a business relationship.

Yours faithfully,

Just to make totally sure that she doesn't want you there again, maybe turn up with some mags sometime.  That'll clinch it  ;D


 ;D ;D ;D and if she turns the mags down, don't forget to offer a tract
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Spruce

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2010, 06:32:07 pm »
Here's the letter:-

Dear Madam,

Re: Your window cleaning enquiry.

Further to your enquiry yesterday I attended your house to view the windows and to gather information to provide a quotation. The gate was locked and so I was unable to gain access to the rear of your property but as you read on you will see that this is of no consequence.

This is because my visit crystallised in my mind a suspicion that was growing as we were speaking on the corner of B________ Rd. What I remember and you evidently do not is that about five years ago I did clean your windows when Mr. M_________ had asked me in similar circumstances when he pulled up in his car and asked me to quote.

My recollection of events was that I had to pay several visits to obtain payment which in my view should have been sent by return as agreed. Reminders were ignored and I felt completely unappreciated for my work. When I called at your house yet again, you finally paid me and my recollection is that I was given some excuse about one of the upper windows at the back having dirt marks on it but when I asked why I hadn't been told at the time rather than many weeks later no logical answer was forthcoming. I decided when the bill was paid that I would never, ever work for you again.

I am sure you agree that in light of my feelings about the above it would be in both our interests for us not to have a business relationship.

Yours faithfully,

Gold
I have always looked up to your greater experience, but this time I'm not sure I would go this route.
I would send a letter declining to do business stating that you did her windows 5 years ago, but that she wasn't happy with the service you provided. Take the blame - that way you can still talk to her when she comes to your Kingdom Hall  ;D ;D ;D
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

mark dew

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2010, 06:36:20 pm »
that is a good letter, but why waste all that brilliant effort?
The joy is in her reaction which you will miss. Tell her to her face and reap the moment. Little effort and she has been told.
Or better still, leave her dangling just like she did you.  :)

weetot

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2010, 06:46:24 pm »
Walk away!
Never take financial advice from people who have no money!

Perfect Windows

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2010, 07:13:52 pm »
Here's the letter:-

Dear Madam,

Re: Your window cleaning enquiry.

Further to your enquiry yesterday I attended your house to view the windows and to gather information to provide a quotation. The gate was locked and so I was unable to gain access to the rear of your property but as you read on you will see that this is of no consequence.

This is because my visit crystallised in my mind a suspicion that was growing as we were speaking on the corner of B________ Rd. What I remember and you evidently do not is that about five years ago I did clean your windows when Mr. M_________ had asked me in similar circumstances when he pulled up in his car and asked me to quote.

My recollection of events was that I had to pay several visits to obtain payment which in my view should have been sent by return as agreed. Reminders were ignored and I felt completely unappreciated for my work. When I called at your house yet again, you finally paid me and my recollection is that I was given some excuse about one of the upper windows at the back having dirt marks on it but when I asked why I hadn't been told at the time rather than many weeks later no logical answer was forthcoming. I decided when the bill was paid that I would never, ever work for you again.

I am sure you agree that in light of my feelings about the above it would be in both our interests for us not to have a business relationship.

Yours faithfully,

Gold,

I never put my feelings in a letter to a customer for the following reason:

Fast forward to the day after she gets the letter.  She's suddenly telling all and sundry that you were snotty because she'd caught you doing a bad job the last time.  Remember, all her neighbours will only hear her version of the story and she's got a letter to wave around an "prove" it.

Just bite the bullet and drop her a note saying "Apologies but I'm not going to be able to clean your windows".

My recent experience with a difficult customer could have ended up with a letter to him that would have satisfied me but looked bad if he told it in his words.  Instead, I just sent a note saying (literally) "Let's call it a day, no charge for the clean".  There's no way that can be misrepresented.

If you write about how you feel it will come back and bite you.

Vin

formb

Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2010, 07:26:52 pm »
Here's the letter:-

Dear Madam,

Re: Your window cleaning enquiry.

Further to your enquiry yesterday I attended your house to view the windows and to gather information to provide a quotation. The gate was locked and so I was unable to gain access to the rear of your property but as you read on you will see that this is of no consequence.

This is because my visit crystallised in my mind a suspicion that was growing as we were speaking on the corner of B________ Rd. What I remember and you evidently do not is that about five years ago I did clean your windows when Mr. M_________ had asked me in similar circumstances when he pulled up in his car and asked me to quote.

My recollection of events was that I had to pay several visits to obtain payment which in my view should have been sent by return as agreed. Reminders were ignored and I felt completely unappreciated for my work. When I called at your house yet again, you finally paid me and my recollection is that I was given some excuse about one of the upper windows at the back having dirt marks on it but when I asked why I hadn't been told at the time rather than many weeks later no logical answer was forthcoming. I decided when the bill was paid that I would never, ever work for you again.

I am sure you agree that in light of my feelings about the above it would be in both our interests for us not to have a business relationship.

Yours faithfully,

Gold,

I never put my feelings in a letter to a customer for the following reason:

Fast forward to the day after she gets the letter.  She's suddenly telling all and sundry that you were snotty because she'd caught you doing a bad job the last time.  Remember, all her neighbours will only hear her version of the story and she's got a letter to wave around an "prove" it.

Just bite the bullet and drop her a note saying "Apologies but I'm not going to be able to clean your windows".

My recent experience with a difficult customer could have ended up with a letter to him that would have satisfied me but looked bad if he told it in his words.  Instead, I just sent a note saying (literally) "Let's call it a day, no charge for the clean".  There's no way that can be misrepresented.

If you write about how you feel it will come back and bite you.

Vin

Well said that man.

I like the letter but it achieves nothing.

AuRavelling79

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2010, 07:47:59 pm »
I want her to know that I won't clean her windows and for her to know why. I'm going to publish and be damned!  ;D

How about this: (changes to original are in red)


Dear Madam,

Re: Your window cleaning enquiry.

Further to your enquiry yesterday I attended your house to view the windows and to gather information to provide a quotation. The gate was locked and so I was unable to gain access to the rear of your property but as you read on you will see that this is of no consequence.

This is because my visit crystallised in my mind a suspicion that was growing as we were speaking on the corner of B________ Rd. What I remember and you evidently do not is that about five years ago I did clean your windows when Mr. M_________ had asked me in similar circumstances when he pulled up in his car and asked me to quote.

Events surrounding and flowing from that time have made me decide that it  would be in both our interests for us not to have a business relationship.

Yours faithfully,
It's a game of three halves!

windowswashed

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2010, 08:14:28 pm »
Good price, bad payer,,,,,,,,,,,simply not worth the time or hassle. Trust your gut instinct.

Perfect Windows

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2010, 08:17:39 pm »
I want her to know that I won't clean her windows and for her to know why. I'm going to publish and be damned!  ;D

Pride will lead you into all sorts of places...

Good luck - it may work out fine.

Vin

david watts

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2010, 08:50:25 pm »
dont do it ;just been stung 70 notes with a dud cheque you do it and it will bite you
stear clear of messers
life is like a box of chocolates you get the crap no one else wants

d s windowcleaning

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2010, 10:54:57 pm »
If i was to receive that letter i would think what a prick .
just tell the woman to her face and put it simple .
YOU MESSED AROUND FIRST TIME YOU DONT GET A SECOND CHANCE .
WHO RUNS YOUR ROUND .
dont let them take the p , DUMPED  ;D
where theres muck theres money

AuRavelling79

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2010, 11:06:17 pm »
If i was to receive that letter i would think what a prick .just tell the woman to her face and put it simple .
YOU MESSED AROUND FIRST TIME YOU DONT GET A SECOND CHANCE .
WHO RUNS YOUR ROUND .
dont let them take the p , DUMPED  ;D

Ah ... but ds - you aren't a snobby householder who lives in a big house in a "select" part of Bristol who treats people with disdain. If I was dealing with you I just would have told you as soon as I recognised you for who you are.

If I do as you suggest then all I would be doing is to show a level of unbridled speech that will fit their stereotypical view of window cleaners.

I run my round - she will not get her windows cleaned I will have the satisfaction of knowing that she will "stew" - she is that type.

I do not care what she says to her neighbours it will have no effect on my round.
It's a game of three halves!

d s windowcleaning

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2010, 11:19:30 pm »
If i was to receive that letter i would think what a prick .just tell the woman to her face and put it simple .
YOU MESSED AROUND FIRST TIME YOU DONT GET A SECOND CHANCE .
WHO RUNS YOUR ROUND .
dont let them take the p , DUMPED  ;D

Ah ... but ds - you aren't a snobby householder who lives in a big house in a "select" part of Bristol who treats people with disdain. If I was dealing with you I just would have told you as soon as I recognised you for who you are.

If I do as you suggest then all I would be doing is to show a level of unbridled speech that will fit their stereotypical view of window cleaners.

I run my round - she will not get her windows cleaned I will have the satisfaction of knowing that she will "stew" - she is that type.

I do not care what she says to her neighbours it will have no effect on my round.
im not saying there will be a effect on your round but after 5 years your round should be full where you wouldnt even consider going back to a messer .
where theres muck theres money

AuRavelling79

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Re: What am I going to do with Mrs. M________?
« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2010, 11:25:05 pm »
Spot on, ds - it's not if I don't take her back - it's how.

Anyhoo decision made - the shorter of the "pricks" letters will be sent.  ;D
It's a game of three halves!