[CARPET KNIGHTS]

Had my van wieght the other day. It is a Peugeot Boxer 3.5 gwt that has got a capacity of 1.8 tonne which i believe is among the better carrying capacity of the vans available.

I don't carry a huge amount of kit just a vacuum, agitator, some chems (not too many), Wands and my 450d maxx and tanks.

I was fully laden with water and fuel and i was sat in it. The weight was 3360kg which gave me 140kg spare.

How do you guys with less capable vans manage to keep underweight?

Cheers Goron

[Colin Day]

By using a triple vac (With TM performance ) and keeping trim by exercising 6 days a week

[gwrightson]

By making sure we have a better van than a peugot boxer 

Geoff

[jasonl]

By having a buffer, vac , blowersx2 box of tools/chems, 2 x rakes , sprayer, small extractor and hoses a few pads and me dinner, I was 2450kg when I last weighed my transit, 350kg under.

[derek west]

note to self, must cut down on maccies.

[garyfindlay]

Or deliver bigger logs before driving

[CARPET KNIGHTS]

Perhaps i should've said people with tm's. It would be easy to keep underweight with a portable.

Geoff the boxer has a better load capacity than most vans which is what i said in my post for example boxer can carry 1800kg transit can carry 1500kg so the boxer is capable of carrying 300kg more. if i had a transit i would be 160kg overweight!

Cheers Goron

[Glynn]

How much water and fuel etc Goron ?.

[CARPET KNIGHTS]

Water tank almost full (not sure of how much it holds i think they are normally about 400L) TM diesel tank 3/4 full (holds about 25L) Van diesel tank 3/4 full holds about 67L.

So you are looking at about 470 litres of fluid which equates to 470kg

Cheers Goron

[CARPET KNIGHTS]

So how do you all keep the weight down?

I see that vauxhall are doing a new 4.5 tonne movano with a payload of 2.5 tonne perhaps this is the way forward?

Cheers Goron

[derek west]

fill up at custies house, remember, you can work while its filling, empty at custies house, simples.

[slioch]

About a year ago someone on here asked for an opinion on a truckmount mounted in a Transit 260.  I responded by saying good truckmount but it (and the rest of the kit) will over weight the van.  The reply I got suggested that it wasn't an issue. Clearly it is.

[jasonl]

When I ran concrete wagons , they were always overweight (every company in the country is overweight at some point)   About 500 kg of water was carried at any time, I got pulled once and told to follow a VOSA car to the weighbridge , I simply cracked open the tap on the back of the wagon , and weighed in at 20kg over , got let off.

Surely a tap would be easy to fit to a TM tank for such a case.

[Jim_77]

My fresh tank has a drain cock, not sure if everyone's does   I have a few feet of open ended solution hose attached to it, very handy for filling up a bucket or sprayer

I rarely run with a full tank, 95% of jobs water is not an issue.  But it's always the one you arrive at empty where you can't get water

Goron, Gross vehicle weight is one thing but did you weigh your AXLES separately?  Whilst still being inside GVW, you could be underweight on one axle and overweight on the other.... still a fine coming your way 

With a submount tank and machine fitted up against the bulkhead as normal, the longer the wheelbase the more prone to being overweight on the front axle you are.

There should be a plate riveted to the inside of one of your door openings telling you all the different maximum weights it can run.

[Dave_Lee]

I know  how much I can put in the van and still be legal.  Most TM and van set ups that I have seen are clearly overweight and I get the impression that their owners are unaware that, that is the case. Some seem to load up as much gear and chems as they can fit in the back. I remember one CC, not that long ago that had a new TM fitted in his van, only to find that when he took it to be weighed, his unit was that much over weight, he had to get a different van and pay again, to transfer the TM.
Dave.

[derek west]

problem solved

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[stuart_clark]

was that a typing error ! Goron ? 3360KG

[clinton]

Think i heard about that dave,and am sure there are a few running around in an overweight van maybe..

[Mike Halliday]

problem solved

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 unfortunately not the trailer weight is added to the weight of the van  so you would still be too high

[JandS]

Have fun stopping that freezing over the Winter.
How do they weatherproof it? Large tarpaulin.

John