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dave.e

runing pump off van batt
« on: October 09, 2010, 01:32:06 pm »
Hi guys and gals can some one please help me i have been told you can run a water fed pump off the van batt what i need to know is if i was on a est with lets say 15 houses with only moving the van about 3 time in the space off 4 hours would it drain the batt. thanks dave

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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2010, 02:24:34 pm »
i have heard of people charging leisure batterys via a connection to the alternator, but never heard of this before.
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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2010, 02:31:30 pm »
I've done this in the past, when I first had the system fitted, but after having to call out the wife with a booster to get the van started at the end of the day :'( I bought another battery and fitted it right next to the pump; much better ;D
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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2010, 02:35:02 pm »
I use a cable to the lighter socket, but only in an emergency. I did have a split charger fitted but something went wrong with that.

I am thinking of getting one of these as a backup pump, though it may take up a bit of space in the van. ;)

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dave.e

Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2010, 02:41:01 pm »
thanks for the replies lads but did,t  dave @ st ives run is pumps of the van batt would be nice to see if he still dose it that way and what is thoughts are. he mite be along in a bit hopefully :)

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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2010, 03:20:55 pm »
like it has been said above you could run your pumps of your van battery but it would drain it as a van battery it only desighned to give a large amount of power  for a short time
a leisure battry is designd to give a large amount of power over a long time

doing the above you will always be left with a flat batter


justget  a split charger fitted it will be a lot better and they are cheap
hope that helps

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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2010, 05:21:04 pm »
thanks for the replies lads but did,t  dave @ st ives run is pumps of the van batt would be nice to see if he still dose it that way and what is thoughts are. he mite be along in a bit hopefully :)

Yes all 4 vans straight off the van battery, each van has twin set ups and work about 10 hours each every day. Never had a problem in 5 years of wfp.

Why would you have it any other way. Keep things simple, get it wired to your van battery and have an easy life, no charging batteries every night. Finish work, fill up, then forget about everything until you turn your key in the morning

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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2010, 05:23:47 pm »
Forget the split charge relay, they aren't needed

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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2010, 05:39:12 pm »
Same as Dave Morris. Run mine from cig' lighter socket for 6.5 years no problem! ;)

BUT, I would advise an electronic flow controller (digital varistream) & 8mm hose instead of 6mm.

Using a varistream means the pump only cycles at the minimum speed required unlike a bypass system where the pump runs flat out regardless of flow setting!

varistream + 8mm hose pulls very little amps from the battery. ;)

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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2010, 05:41:48 pm »
What size batterys are in your vans Dave ?

Im thinking of setting my van battery up as an emergency thing. Today i had two jobs to catch up on. Half way through the first job and my lesuire battery died on me, so had to go home  to get the spare to finish off. Now if i had the wires set up i could have just ran off the van for the 1 & 1/2 jobs i had left to do. Would have saved me 30 mins traveling and fuel too
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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2010, 06:02:07 pm »
Same as Dave Morris. Run mine from cig' lighter socket for 6.5 years no problem! ;)

BUT, I would advise an electronic flow controller (digital varistream) & 8mm hose instead of 6mm.

Using a varistream means the pump only cycles at the minimum speed required unlike a bypass system where the pump runs flat out regardless of flow setting!

varistream + 8mm hose pulls very little amps from the battery. ;)

Do you have to put a higher amp fuse for the cog lighter if you run your pumps from it, or don't the pull that muxh current

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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2010, 06:11:44 pm »
Forgot to say, I use varistream controllers.

I don't know the battery size, but have had 6 different vans with no problems.

dave.e

Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2010, 06:31:00 pm »
thanks for the replies lads but did,t  dave @ st ives run is pumps of the van batt would be nice to see if he still dose it that way and what is thoughts are. he mite be along in a bit hopefully :)

Yes all 4 vans straight off the van battery, each van has twin set ups and work about 10 hours each every day. Never had a problem in 5 years of wfp.

Why would you have it any other way. Keep things simple, get it wired to your van battery and have an easy life, no charging batteries every night. Finish work, fill up, then forget about everything until you turn your key in the morning



thanks dave your reply was just what i was after  ;)

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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2010, 07:55:39 pm »
Same as Dave Morris. Run mine from cig' lighter socket for 6.5 years no problem! ;)

BUT, I would advise an electronic flow controller (digital varistream) & 8mm hose instead of 6mm.

Using a varistream means the pump only cycles at the minimum speed required unlike a bypass system where the pump runs flat out regardless of flow setting!

varistream + 8mm hose pulls very little amps from the battery. ;)

Do you have to put a higher amp fuse for the cog lighter if you run your pumps from it, or don't the pull that muxh current

No higher amp fuse used on mine.

My van battery is only 60Ah.

On my previous van I changed the OE battery when it was 6 years old & replaced it with a cheapo £35 one from partco. Never had any trouble with that one either! :D


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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2010, 09:26:59 pm »
here here dave. i run a 2 man set up straight from the van batt. no problems whatsoever. 1000 litres a day from the van batt no problem.. ;)

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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2010, 10:20:43 pm »
Me too. Straight from van battery. Sometimes i don't move the van all day.

Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2010, 10:52:33 pm »
Run mine straight from van battery, use 600 to 700 litres a day! do little travelling inbetween, no problems so far.

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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2010, 11:12:05 pm »
stupid question,  is it just as straight forward as running leads to poz and neg?

Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2010, 11:33:00 pm »
Yes mate!

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Re: runing pump off van batt
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2010, 11:33:48 pm »
stupid question,  is it just as straight forward as running leads to poz and neg?

I use a 12v cig lighter plug on the end of a cable from pump box.