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Simon Gerrard

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Best LM System
« on: September 14, 2010, 06:12:39 pm »
This is probably opening a can of worms, but which is the best LM cleaning system for domestic carpets?
Dry Fusion looks the business but are looks deceiving?

Simon

Phillip Mold

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2010, 06:35:39 pm »
As requested.......
Doing the best job in the world as well as I can

robert meldrum

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2010, 06:46:01 pm »
I just got into the carpet cleaning business 8 months ago. After countless hours of research I decided to go with the 17" Commercial Breeze Package. I dediced to purchase the Breeze based on all the unbiased feedback from carpet cleaners on online forums. Everyone who already owned one loved it. Now I had never been in the carpet cleaning biz before so I had nothing to compare the equipment to. I CAN tell you this though! My customers are thrilled with my work. About 350 jobs since last Feb. 95% Residential 5% Commercial. My customers always tell me I did a better job than the last guy who cleaned their carpet whether it was HWE or another Low Moisture cleaner.
Experienced carpet cleaners tell me how lucky I am to start off with the right equipment the first time.
With my past sales and telemarketing experience and my Commercial Breeze I was able to quit my other job after only a month of cleaning carpets. I haven't looked back once and was even able to buy a brand new home a couple of months ago.
It took me a year of staring at different machines on the internet before I clicked the Add to Cart button on the Breeze. I'am so glad I did!!
Oh yeah, I have to mention that the Customer Service form CCS is also top notch. VERY helpful to this newbie!

This is a quote from another forum about the leader in o/p'ing's machines.

Mike Halliday

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2010, 07:23:28 pm »
i've got a machine that looks exactly like the breeze and it is better than any rotory.

I also have just got a machine that looks nearly the same as this.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEvPbzKHMTA&feature=related

its that good i might ring Nick and actually pay for it ;D ;D (ring you tomorrow)

 it is too heavy to be my only machine as you can't carry it up stairs but for downstair its really gives good results
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2010, 07:32:59 pm »
17" Commercial Breeze Package

Where do I find info on that?

Simon

Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)

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Mike Halliday

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2010, 07:36:54 pm »
Simon...errr google?
http://www.google.com/search?q=Commercial+Breeze+Package&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-ContextMenu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GZEV_en

Steve don't think it has a name I bought it off Nick @ solutions it was a prototype he made, but he must have seen the youtube vid i posted it looks nearly the same ;)
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2010, 07:39:21 pm »
http://ccsop.com/index.php?url_channel_id=179&url_publish_channel_id=452&well_id=2

Shaun

PS years ago on one of the forums someone showed us how to make a standard rotary into a OP, because we didn't really know the benefits of an OP over a rotary the post was lost on us.

Colin Day

Re: Best LM System
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2010, 08:36:02 pm »
I have the other one Mike.... Good bit of kit isn't it?

Mike Halliday

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2010, 08:40:14 pm »
how do you get it in & out of the van by yourself? it weights a ton!

we use it on probably 40% of all cleans.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Colin Day

Re: Best LM System
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2010, 08:48:01 pm »
I eat 3 Weetabix in the morning ;D

I have replaced the adjusting bar with a tubular bar to keep it rigid, this helps. I basically man handle it, but I know it won't be long before I do some damage if I'm not careful....

Do you used it a lot on domestic jobs???

David Ware

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2010, 08:51:48 pm »
Simon, have a word with Keith Nicolson from Chemspec Direct I believe he is developing this type of OP machine
David

Mike Halliday

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2010, 09:01:35 pm »
Colin we use it on all domestic jobs on the ground floor. today we did 2  T/L & HSL on both jobs we used the T/M on the stair and top landing the through lounge and hall were 'orbited'. helper did the stairs, I worked in the lounge.

 on the last job i ran the wand across the traffic area in the lounge but I needn't have bothered it made it look no cleaner.

we are using fusion clean & pureclean

some jobs we still need to  extract, but they all get orbited to start with.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2010, 09:07:16 pm »
Colin and Mike

Have you got any photos ?

Mike Halliday

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2010, 09:15:48 pm »
I have'nt.

 i'll take some on thursday ( big day P/W tomorrow)
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2010, 09:23:17 pm »
Mike is there any difference in results when using an OP and say an envirodri if you were to HWE after?

Is the reason you OP because it's quicker or drier?

Shaun

Mike Halliday

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2010, 09:28:11 pm »
no difference as an agitator

but i use the op because on a lot of jobs I don't need to extract, but if I used the envirdri I would still need to extract
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Griffus

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2010, 09:32:09 pm »
Mike is there any difference in results when using an OP and say an envirodri if you were to HWE after?

Is the reason you OP because it's quicker or drier?

Shaun

I used a grey xr pad from solutions on my rotary the other day to agitate in advance of bonnet and the results were impressive with a neutral prespray. Chemical was Fusion Clean but I can see the possibilities for agitating all sorts of presprays on lower profiles. Lots quicker than the envirodri with the added bonus of having the rotary to dry bonnet after HWE as required.

james roffey

Re: Best LM System
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2010, 05:48:39 pm »
I have been using my rotary for a few weeks now and find the biggest downside is the weight, unlike my HWE which although heavier its easier to get in an out the van because you are never actually carrying the whole weight at any one time.
With the rotary you have to lift the whole thing in an out and have bruises where it has swung into me as i have lifted it in it is very heavy something like 40 plus kilos, it only a matter of time before i do myself a mischief :'(

robert meldrum

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Re: Best LM System
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2010, 06:12:00 pm »
There's a newer model than the one in Shaun's post called the Trinity ........... the main difference in John Guerlink's machines is their oscillating speed............they rotate at the same speed as the others but apparently the higher oscillating speed greatly increases productivity.

Solutions were selling one of J G's machines.