[jasonl]

What actually is in the chems we use ?

I tend to call them solutions, fluids ,cleaning agents or juices, to  avoid calling them chemicals.

I notice customers more and more lately asking what is in them.   Lots of labels tell you what is NOT in them , few tell you what is.

  I tend to mumble something about plant based salts, colloids and secret recipes. In reality I do not have a clue what is in Nemesis, Mpower or Fusion 8 .

Does anyone know?

[clinton]

I tend to do the same as well jason and always show them my hands as i have seen some c cleaners with really unhealthy dried skin from using some cleaning solutions..Think more people are aware now what we are using..

[jasonl]

Sometimes I say , look , its safe to drink , then drink a bit, if kids are around I then pretend to die.

[Mike Halliday]

just lately I've been talking about the oil spill in the gulf coast, telling customers the last oil disaster was the Exxon Valdez in Alaska.

during the Alaskan  clean up of the wild life they found the cleaning chemicals they used were more harmful than the oil its self and was killing the birds , so they had to develop a new cleaning agent that was totally harmless to the wildlife and the environment.

I then explain We are now using that exact same chemical to safely clean their carpets & upholstery.

[clive ware]

Mike - you dont half come out with some bull shxt!

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Great answer Mike but it doesn't half smell of BS to me I use Ultrapak and put some citrus in it and tell them it's the scraped leaves of a citrus bush (only joking)

Jason's question is more relivant then ever now.

Shaun

[Mike Halliday]

it might be bullchit...... but its believable bullchit


and its true!

[Griffus]

What actually is in the chems we use ?

I tend to call them solutions, fluids ,cleaning agents or juices, to  avoid calling them chemicals.

I notice customers more and more lately asking what is in them.   Lots of labels tell you what is NOT in them , few tell you what is.

  I tend to mumble something about plant based salts, colloids and secret recipes. In reality I do not have a clue what is in Nemesis, Mpower or Fusion 8 .

Does anyone know?

All this detail is on the MSDS.

All chemicals being used should have been risk assessed under COSHH reg's and these assesments / data sheets should be kept by the operator, ideally with a copy in the vehicle.

If you don't have these then start by contacting your chem supplier / manufacturer. Most are now available online.

[jasonl]

Done that , but they onlt tell you what is NOT IN THE CHEMS! Strikes me that is because the ingredients are simple and easily freely available 

[elliott cleaning]

Where do you find all these clients with a conscience?  

99 percent of mine just want their carpets etc cleaned.   The one in a hundred that asks what I use are given a look which implies - 'what a darn stupid question' - and they quickly move off to let me get on with producing what  in fact they really want.

On the commercial side just give them the MSDS as mentioned by someone above - and they just file it without taking any interest it what is says - but it ticks the box for them

[jasonl]

I think they are asking more out of concern that nothing toxic is being sprayed around thier home.

[Peter Sweeney]

Er Actually Mike is spot on. This is exactly what the micro splitter technology was developed for originally.

Pete

[Graeme@Access]

Fusion 8 is essentially akin to small particles of perspex.

Its a PMMA derivative that has a specific particle size.

Your cleaning floors with plexiglass.

Well not quite as its a copolymer with a maleic anhydride derivative and ethoxlylates. But essentially if you want an easy speal your cleaning with a specifically designed nano "wrecking ball" that hits dirt hard, but is soft on fibres of course!

Graeme
Access Cleaning Solutions

ETA yay 300 posts and i hope that scientifically this answers your question

[Graeme@Access]

Hmm,

I need to further qualify the post above with more tech jargon.

Dirt is held to a fibre using Van der Waals forces (essentially and electro static interaction).

Fibres are held together using covalent bonds.

New type cleaning products are strong enough to break Mr Waals forces, but not covalent bonds. Hey presto, we remove the dirt and don't damage the fibre.

Your gonna look like an uber scientist if you use that type of jargon. I would fire it on a sheet and let them wiki it. Most people dont care, its about price and when you can do it, but tech it up if you need to.

Graeme
Access Cleaning Solutions

[jasonl]

Graeme , Are you anywhere near Clarkston in Glasgow? Went to a wedding there last week , The Busby hotel,, Minging carpets in there, definately worth a visit.

[stu_thomson]

When job goes well (ere...always :)I call the chems "jesus in a bottle"

In simple terms I say that if you compare carpet cleaning to washing hands the prespray is like putting soap on your hands the agitation is the rubbing of the hands, now you have soil suspended on your hands which needs rinsing off under tap which is the final rinse with the machine..

make sense

more boddingtons then

stu

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Pete I thought Nemesis and Mpower were designed for eco removal of oil?

Could be wrong but the US navy were using in the 1950's to clean ships and the sea water would wash the soiled water away but with no harm to fish etc.

Shaun

[bennymon]

hi jason mpower and nemesis are water and all the powders are daz 

[Vernon Purcell]

We just call them detergents, if they ask , if they mention chemical I tell them that water is a chemical which is 99.99999999 of what we use, this has a cas no 7732-18-5

[jasonl]

hi jason mpower and nemesis are water and all the powders are daz 

I thought so.