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elite mike

dont want another day like yesterday
« on: August 28, 2010, 05:25:40 pm »

this is how my day went.

started on bungalows for a nice easy start, having a great time up until 11 o clock

then i could hear this car revving its guts out, it turned out to be a custy i was going to clean next

getting his car out the drive. thought thats unusual for dave<custys name>

go over to clean windows and see him slumped in car

realised something was not right checked to see if he was alright realised he might be dead

called 999 ,who then told me i had to get dave out the car and give cpr,

i asked the next door neighbour to help me get him out

he replied ive got a bad back mate   ::) 

anyway gets him out and with the help of the guy on the phone gets on with cpr

1st responder turns up and i help him with trying to help dave come back to life to no avail  :'(

then 2 more ambulances turn up and four police cars focus estates plus cid and the doctor 

i just could not believe they sent out so many vehicles, it was like a blue light frenzy

anyway that was my day yesterday, and ime going to have a good drink tonight for dave rip

AuRavelling79

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Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2010, 05:33:46 pm »
Good grief! That's grim!
It's a game of three halves!

elite mike

Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2010, 05:37:53 pm »
Good grief! That's grim!

had better days malc

the bfg

Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2010, 06:14:47 pm »
is dave ok ?

the reason so many came out is prob to make sure there are no suspicious circimstances

paul rulton

Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2010, 06:20:23 pm »
i hope he didnt owe u any money  :o
realy m8, ur a better man than me...... dont know wot i would of done.
big pat on the back 4tryin tho m8  ;) & enjoy ur drink fella, raise a glass 4 Dave  :'(

davids3511

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Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2010, 06:25:08 pm »

this is how my day went.

started on bungalows for a nice easy start, having a great time up until 11 o clock

then i could hear this car revving its guts out, it turned out to be a custy i was going to clean next

getting his car out the drive. thought thats unusual for dave<custys name>

go over to clean windows and see him slumped in car

realised something was not right checked to see if he was alright realised he might be dead

called 999 ,who then told me i had to get dave out the car and give cpr,

i asked the next door neighbour to help me get him out

he replied ive got a bad back mate   ::) 

anyway gets him out and with the help of the guy on the phone gets on with cpr

1st responder turns up and i help him with trying to help dave come back to life to no avail  :'(

then 2 more ambulances turn up and four police cars focus estates plus cid and the doctor 

i just could not believe they sent out so many vehicles, it was like a blue light frenzy

anyway that was my day yesterday, and ime going to have a good drink tonight for dave rip

And I though I had a bad week...

Paul Coleman

Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2010, 06:38:05 pm »

this is how my day went.

started on bungalows for a nice easy start, having a great time up until 11 o clock

then i could hear this car revving its guts out, it turned out to be a custy i was going to clean next

getting his car out the drive. thought thats unusual for dave<custys name>

go over to clean windows and see him slumped in car

realised something was not right checked to see if he was alright realised he might be dead

called 999 ,who then told me i had to get dave out the car and give cpr,

i asked the next door neighbour to help me get him out

he replied ive got a bad back mate   ::) 

anyway gets him out and with the help of the guy on the phone gets on with cpr

1st responder turns up and i help him with trying to help dave come back to life to no avail  :'(

then 2 more ambulances turn up and four police cars focus estates plus cid and the doctor 

i just could not believe they sent out so many vehicles, it was like a blue light frenzy

anyway that was my day yesterday, and ime going to have a good drink tonight for dave rip


Blimey.  And there was I thinking that I've had a bad week because I chipped someone's car paintwork which will cost me.  It's only money.
Hope you're starting to recover from it Mike.  I know these things often hit you a bit later.

elite mike

Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2010, 07:53:43 pm »
thanks guys

richywilts

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Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2010, 08:17:08 pm »
fair play mate for doing ya best thats all ya could do dont beat yaself up about not keeping him alive theres only so much u can do without proper defibrillation equipment as there is a lot of damage done.my hat goes of too you i certainly wouldnt like to ever be in that situation
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Richard Neal

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Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2010, 08:22:11 pm »
You did all you could for him mate we all hope someone like yourself is around if we end up in Daves situation,

you did good mate
Im not scared of heights, just falling from them.
mrwindowclean@hotmail.co.uk

gary999

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Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2010, 08:26:34 pm »
well done for your efforts not everyone would bother

shame it didnt work out but at least you were there for him

mark mann

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Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2010, 08:42:12 pm »
top man that took some bottle and nerve to keep calm enough to even attempt it and thank god there is  thoughtful and considerate people like you around mate... well done

had u ever talked any with him in the time u did his cleans?
an optimist takes the tartare sauce with him when he goes fishing -

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2010, 09:00:48 pm »
Its hard Mike, I tried reviving an old guy who had collapsed in a multi storey carpark, I was on my own for what seemed like forever but was actually 3-4 mins before a trainee midwife (working in boots) in the shopping centre came and helped me. the ambulance took ages (so it felt), and the 2 guys got the trolley out and placed him on the trolley and took him in the back of the ambulance they were there for ages, probably using the defibs on him. but they didn't show any signs of urgency, anyway found out the following week from the security guy in the car park that he didn't make it.
For 2 weeks after all I could think of was "if I responded quicker he might still be here" etc.
So many people just walked passed the guy like he wasn't there, I couldn't believe it. there were 2 women there but both flapping not knowing what to do.


Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

richywilts

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Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2010, 05:23:38 pm »
For those who may not know how to perform basic CPR heres some guidelines take a look as u never know when it may come in handy!!

   1. Stay Safe! The worst thing a rescuer can do is become another victim. Follow universal precautions and wear personal protective equipment if you have it. Use common sense and stay away from potential hazards.

   2. Attempt to wake victim. Briskly rub your knuckles against the victim's sternum. If the victim does not wake, call 999 and proceed to step 3. If the victim wakes, moans, or moves, then CPR is not necessary at this time. Call 999 if the victim is confused or not able to speak.

   3. Begin rescue breathing. Open the victim's airway using the head-tilt, chin-lift method. Put your ear to the victim's open mouth:
          * look for chest movement
          * listen for air flowing through the mouth or nose
          * feel for air on your cheek
      If there is no breathing, pinch the victim's nose; make a seal over the victim's mouth with yours. Use a CPR mask if available. Give the victim a breath big enough to make the chest rise. Let the chest fall, then repeat the rescue breath once more. If the chest doesn't rise on the first breath, reposition the head and try again. Whether it works on the second try or not, go to step 4.

   4. Begin chest compressions. Place the heel of your hand in the middle of the victim's chest. Put your other hand on top of the first with your fingers interlaced. Compress the chest about 1-1/2 to 2 inches (4-5 cm). Allow the chest to completely recoil before the next compression. Compress the chest at a rate equal to 100/minute. Perform 30 compressions at this rate.

   5. Repeat rescue breaths. Open the airway with head-tilt, chin-lift again. This time, go directly to rescue breaths without checking for breathing again. Give one breath, making sure the chest rises and falls, then give another. Remember, if the chest doesn't rise on the first breath, reposition the head before you give the second breath.

   6. Perform 30 more chest compressions. Repeat steps 5 and 6 for about two minutes.

   7. After 2 minutes of chest compressions and rescue breaths, stop compressions and recheck victim for breathing. If the victim is not breathing, continue chest compressions and rescue breaths.

   8. Keep going until help arrives.

Tips:

   1. If you have acces to an automated external defibrillator, attach it to the victim after approximately one minute of CPR (chest compressions and rescue breaths).
   2. Chest compressions are extremely important. If you are not comfortable giving rescue breaths, still perform chest compressions!
   3. It's normal to feel pops and snaps when you first begin chest compressions - DON'T STOP! You aren't going to make the victim any worse. Cardiac arrest is as bad as it gets.
   4. When performing chest compressions, do not let your hands bounce. Let the chest fully recoil, but keep the heel of your hand in contact with the sternum at all times.
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Steve_c

Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2010, 06:24:22 pm »
Sorry to hear that, good on you for trying, i hope you are feeling much better.

A & J Owen Window Cleaning

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Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2010, 06:29:05 pm »
elite you did all you could mate not nice to see have a nice drink tonight mate

elite mike

Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2010, 06:38:09 pm »
thanks for all the comments guys

my mrs and son are both trained lifesavers, and i think a little bit of it sunk in

but i am going to do the same course as them now

good advice from richy
top man that took some bottle and nerve to keep calm enough to even attempt it and thank god there is  thoughtful and considerate people like you around mate... well done

had u ever talked any with him in the time u did his cleans?
thanks mark

yes i see him most days walking his dog, and we always have a quick chat :)

rz

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Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2010, 06:49:41 pm »
hiya mike.

i just text you (your daughter) fair play to you mate.

have a few large glasses of red..

Perfect Windows

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Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2010, 08:05:35 pm »
Compress the chest at a rate equal to 100/minute.

And to hit this speed, it's the beat rate in "Staying Alive" by the Bee Gees.  Seriously.

Vin

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: dont want another day like yesterday
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2010, 08:33:39 pm »
For those who may not know how to perform basic CPR heres some guidelines take a look as u never know when it may come in handy!!

   1. Stay Safe! The worst thing a rescuer can do is become another victim. Follow universal precautions and wear personal protective equipment if you have it. Use common sense and stay away from potential hazards.

   2. Attempt to wake victim. Briskly rub your knuckles against the victim's sternum. If the victim does not wake, call 999 and proceed to step 3. If the victim wakes, moans, or moves, then CPR is not necessary at this time. Call 999 if the victim is confused or not able to speak.

   3. Begin rescue breathing. Open the victim's airway using the head-tilt, chin-lift method. Put your ear to the victim's open mouth:
          * look for chest movement
          * listen for air flowing through the mouth or nose
          * feel for air on your cheek
      If there is no breathing, pinch the victim's nose; make a seal over the victim's mouth with yours. Use a CPR mask if available. Give the victim a breath big enough to make the chest rise. Let the chest fall, then repeat the rescue breath once more. If the chest doesn't rise on the first breath, reposition the head and try again. Whether it works on the second try or not, go to step 4.

   4. Begin chest compressions. Place the heel of your hand in the middle of the victim's chest. Put your other hand on top of the first with your fingers interlaced. Compress the chest about 1-1/2 to 2 inches (4-5 cm). Allow the chest to completely recoil before the next compression. Compress the chest at a rate equal to 100/minute. Perform 30 compressions at this rate.

   5. Repeat rescue breaths. Open the airway with head-tilt, chin-lift again. This time, go directly to rescue breaths without checking for breathing again. Give one breath, making sure the chest rises and falls, then give another. Remember, if the chest doesn't rise on the first breath, reposition the head before you give the second breath.

   6. Perform 30 more chest compressions. Repeat steps 5 and 6 for about two minutes.

   7. After 2 minutes of chest compressions and rescue breaths, stop compressions and recheck victim for breathing. If the victim is not breathing, continue chest compressions and rescue breaths.

   8. Keep going until help arrives.

Tips:

   1. If you have acces to an automated external defibrillator, attach it to the victim after approximately one minute of CPR (chest compressions and rescue breaths).
   2. Chest compressions are extremely important. If you are not comfortable giving rescue breaths, still perform chest compressions!
   3. It's normal to feel pops and snaps when you first begin chest compressions - DON'T STOP! You aren't going to make the victim any worse. Cardiac arrest is as bad as it gets.
   4. When performing chest compressions, do not let your hands bounce. Let the chest fully recoil, but keep the heel of your hand in contact with the sternum at all times.


I was taught to squeeze the earlobe as this gives a reaction from the victim.


Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.