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Mike #1

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Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2010, 06:03:03 am »
one thing if the pole hose is thicker and heavier i cant understand why companys like gardiners dont fit them with the streamline lite-5 yellow hose durable and flexible even in cold weather i wont use anything else

Nathanael Jones

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Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2010, 07:09:51 am »

Incidentally my post (or tone) about Gardiner’s is in part aimed at the fools who have nothing but praise for them, even when there Gardiner pole has snapped or something has broken, it reverts to - great customer service etc. It’s just the reverse when the have nothing positive to say about Ionic. There’s nothing constructive about there post on these subjects at all, in fact they are misleading.


What do you think Ionics need to do to get the same kind of misleading & foolish praise?

Smudger

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Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2010, 08:06:50 am »
It's nice to see Gardiners back again,  having got a new mk 111 SLX i have to say
it was a great buy superb to use, yes i was surprised by the whip, compared to the SL2
over the same length, but this pole has meant i reach 3 storeys and velux windows all in one.
(18 ft prolong before)

only had an issue with positive stops, and this was such an easy fix it does not really register
as a fault as it beats paint marks hands down.

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2010, 03:23:23 pm »
 Gardiners were the first company to actually listen & do real world R&D. They designed, had manufactured & brought to market what we had been praying for! Gardiners were the ONLY company to do this while the others just sat back & continued to churn the same old crap out!

Anyone new to wfp don't really know they are born with such a choice of good products on the market today. When I ventured into wfp over 6 years ago you were sold crap, poles which were actually dangerous to use they were so heavy & flexible! Many of the companies selling equipment hadn't a clue about what they were selling!

IMO, if it weren't for Gardiners commitment & focus to innovation of products in the wfp market the other companies would still be sat on their arses, ripping us off with the same old crap! Look at Ionics for an example, they ripped off the Gardiner lateral clamp design ::) would they have got off their backsides to design their own if not? doubt it.

For this reason, I for one can easily forgive any minor issues Gardiners may have had with new, revolutionary products. They have revolutionised the working day for me, made it easier, quicker & thus more enjoyable & in turn gives me the edge on competition!

So, Ewan, with you just being out of your wfp nappies you can't possibly appreciate just what a huge difference Gardiners have made to our industry & that's probably why you are so naive! ;)

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2010, 04:48:22 pm »
Gardiners were the first company to actually listen & do real world R&D. They designed, had manufactured & brought to market what we had been praying for! Gardiners were the ONLY company to do this while the others just sat back & continued to churn the same old crap out!

Anyone new to wfp don't really know they are born with such a choice of good products on the market today. When I ventured into wfp over 6 years ago you were sold crap, poles which were actually dangerous to use they were so heavy & flexible! Many of the companies selling equipment hadn't a clue about what they were selling!

IMO, if it weren't for Gardiners commitment & focus to innovation of products in the wfp market the other companies would still be sat on their arses, ripping us off with the same old crap! Look at Ionics for an example, they ripped off the Gardiner lateral clamp design ::) would they have got off their backsides to design their own if not? doubt it.

For this reason, I for one can easily forgive any minor issues Gardiners may have had with new, revolutionary products. They have revolutionised the working day for me, made it easier, quicker & thus more enjoyable & in turn gives me the edge on competition!

So, Ewan, with you just being out of your wfp nappies you can't possibly appreciate just what a huge difference Gardiners have made to our industry & that's probably why you are so naive! ;)



I going to cut you some slack, and not comment on your post.

But if I don’t see balanced response to it, I may have to comment later.


I feel so honoured ;D

gary999

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Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2010, 05:48:06 pm »
Gardiners were the first company to actually listen & do real world R&D. They designed, had manufactured & brought to market what we had been praying for! Gardiners were the ONLY company to do this while the others just sat back & continued to churn the same old crap out!

Anyone new to wfp don't really know they are born with such a choice of good products on the market today. When I ventured into wfp over 6 years ago you were sold crap, poles which were actually dangerous to use they were so heavy & flexible! Many of the companies selling equipment hadn't a clue about what they were selling!

IMO, if it weren't for Gardiners commitment & focus to innovation of products in the wfp market the other companies would still be sat on their arses, ripping us off with the same old crap! Look at Ionics for an example, they ripped off the Gardiner lateral clamp design ::) would they have got off their backsides to design their own if not? doubt it.

For this reason, I for one can easily forgive any minor issues Gardiners may have had with new, revolutionary products. They have revolutionised the working day for me, made it easier, quicker & thus more enjoyable & in turn gives me the edge on competition!

So, Ewan, with you just being out of your wfp nappies you can't possibly appreciate just what a huge difference Gardiners have made to our industry & that's probably why you are so naive! ;)

what a load of rubbish...gardiners didnt revolutionise wfp



b&Q did when they started selling the harris ;D ;D ;D ;D

Window Washers

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Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2010, 05:55:32 pm »
one thing if the pole hose is thicker and heavier i cant understand why companys like gardiners dont fit them with the streamline lite-5 yellow hose durable and flexible even in cold weather i wont use anything else
I am a fan of the slx, I have a couple of them, I am not a fan of the yellow hose though it is a royal pain in the bum with tangles all the time, I dread winter if I am still using it. Typical I bought a 30m reel of the yellow stuff lol
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

tom2009

Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2010, 06:01:43 pm »
I got my slx this morning and after 5 months of using a green fibre glass pole its an absolute revelation. Light, stiff and a pleasure to use. Supalight duel trim brush, can't believe how much better it is. Yellow hose is cool, matches my uniform  8)

Window Washers

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Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2010, 06:16:10 pm »
I got my slx this morning and after 5 months of using a green fibre glass pole its an absolute revelation. Light, stiff and a pleasure to use. Supalight duel trim brush, can't believe how much better it is. Yellow hose is cool, matches my uniform  8)
hence I dont like it  :P
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

tom2009

Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2010, 06:50:46 pm »
I got my slx this morning and after 5 months of using a green fibre glass pole its an absolute revelation. Light, stiff and a pleasure to use. Supalight duel trim brush, can't believe how much better it is. Yellow hose is cool, matches my uniform  8)
hence I dont like it  :P
you don't like it cuz it clashes with yer eyes  :D

Farmer Giles.

ARWindows

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Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2010, 08:08:05 pm »
I had my 18ft CLX delivered yesterday with superlight brush, excellent pole, fantastic value for the money, would never buy a pole from any other company, i have 2 18ft SLX and 30ft SLX for two vans, my only wish is they would make a brush specifically for hot water usage as the hot water tends to frizzle the bristles apart from that excellent.

Dave Willis

Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2010, 08:26:46 pm »
I could do with some more hose - who stocks the streamlite stuff? Gardiners are out of stock of their yellow stuff.

Dave Willis

Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2010, 08:36:21 pm »
I only started wfp nearly four years ago. The choice of poles then was affordable glassfibre (dreadful) or a carbon pole like a Facelift - a benchmark pole in its day but out of reach for anyone starting out on a budget. The other option for lightness and rigidity was a carbon fishing pole. Gardiners have brought the price of a telescopic quality carbon pole within the price bracket of many newbies and established cleaners alike.
If Gardiners hadn't come along we would no doubt still be spending £1000 on a carbon pole and wrestling with an overweight vikan brick on the end and trying to extend six foot plus sections.
Anyone tried a Tucker pole? I did and couldn't lift it from the road - they had to be extended, wedged against the kerb and walked upright.

Ionics might well make good systems, but my god they are pricey!

Dave Willis

Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2010, 10:24:22 pm »
I tend to comment only on things I know about hence Gardiners products. I know very little about other manufacturers or their products so generally don't criticise them. I have a general impression which goes a bit like this:
Gardiners = quality poles at an unbeatable price, other products of theirs can be a little pricey but everything is backed up by top customer service.

Ionics: don't know much about them to be honest but have the perception that their systems may be good but vastly overpriced.

Facelift: all I know is their poles were once one of the best but expensive.

Brodex: might be fine but I dislike their pushy sales techniques so would never purchase from them.

Pure Freedom: i've bought pumps from them and membranes no problems, their systems seem excellent value for money they are bookmarked for the future.  :)

Omnipole: put off them for life by the arrogant attitude of the Director.

Thats just the way I see the Industry - everyone's different, one mans meat is another mans poison.

Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2010, 10:33:13 pm »
I deal with someone who knows glyn and they say he is a smashing bloke who gets wound up easily. And if i remember your gutter wotsit  was enough to wind anyone up.

Carl2009

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Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2010, 11:03:50 pm »
Right, a couple of days in and I have to say that i'm not noticing the whippiness of my new SLx as much as before. As I originally posted, this pole is longer and, as the sections are thinner I guess it's inevitable that it's going to be a bit whippier I guess. I still don't notice it's lighter weight, but have benefited more from it's slightly longer extended length. I'm def. worried about the positive stop paint wearing away though.

When I got home yesterday a new angle adapter had arrived and, today, following a fone call yesterday, the correct hose end.

I've watched with interest all the debate about Gardiners and other suppliers on here. I've had my problems with Gardiners - I bought an SLX last year and had clamps and an endcone come unstuck a couple of days after delivery and endured the barrel nut saga. But you've got to ask, why then did I buy another SLx this year. The answer is that I recognise that it's a good product and, secondly, their customer service is great. In this country we are always moaning about bad customer service (to me i've read enough about Brodex to be put off for life) so it's great to experience good customer service.

I'm also soooo happy to see Gardiners Admin and Kirsty Gardiner back on here. Thanks God they are playing a part in this forum again, they've been missed by me at least, giving - as they do - a bit of an insight what it's like to develop new products that appear simple (I mean, just how difficult can it be to create a pole that'll extend to 30', collapse to 4', with clamps that never need adjusting and that can be operated by 1 hand, that is as rigid extended as when you take it out of the van, that weighs little more than a bag of sugar. And that you can step on without crushing it) but aren't.

Try and order an SLX for delivery next week. There's a reason you won't get one and that's because it's a great pole at a fair price. I buy bits and pieces from Gardiners and others from Cleaning Spot and Pure Freedom, all three are great to deal with in my opinion.

Mike #1

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Re: New SLX - a comparison with the old
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2010, 06:17:47 am »
I could do with some more hose - who stocks the streamlite stuff? Gardiners are out of stock of their yellow stuff.



i got mine off griggs based in plymouth i think,  no website i had to phone order in 0800 2980333 think this is it hope so