[Moderator David@stives]

aye i got to agree

GG 4 for me

glad i ditched fairy, the windows stay cleaner aswell with GG

something to do with lanonlin attracting the dust and stuff on the windows (i wont go into too much details, as i dont want to look a geek)

righty oh, off for my tea and some TV with the mrs

please matt be a geek i am interested

[rosskesava]

Good old fairy contains amongst other nasties - silicon.

Just to give that lovely crisp shine to your plates that then catch the light and glisten and look shiney and sparkle and .....

Trouble with silicon in that form is that is essentialy a liquid with a solid hard barrier on top of it.

Eventually it dries out and your plates no longer sparkle etc.

Before that happens though fine atmospheric dirt gets stuck to it and the silicon acts  as a glue like substance.

I think it comes down to fairy looks good at the time.

Don't I know a lot?

I don't realy, I phoned a friend who is a chemical engineer.

The best detergent are anionic (an ionic??) whatever that means. I did ask but got lost in the answer. Something to do with charged particals and no chemical sufactants or something.

Cheers

[Thecleanerservice]

I've used the old green stuff for 18 years no trouble, but, me wallets out...Whats an nanionic onionac whatever..Give us the trade name we'll all have 3 boxes each

Pj

[rosskesava]

Hi Pj

Whats an nanionic onionac whatever..Give us the trade name we'll all have 3 boxes each

Er..... My poor brain can only absorb so much information.

As for trades names? Pass, but they are easily available. Somewhere...... I suppose if you know what to ak for.

I don't even really know what he was on about. I just repeated it because it sounded good and knowing my friend, it was true.

Cheers

[Window Cleaner]

Hi all..
Does any of you use ECOVER ecological washing up liquid, ive heard its realy good, leaves no smears or streaks..

Regards
Rog
Crystal Clear Window Cleaning

[dai]

 Dai.

What's the Wagtail like??
What do you think are the main advantages?

I'm thinking of getting one for hard to reach windows & fix to an extension pole.

What do you reckon??

Ray.
Ray, I think that the Wagtail is a brilliant bit of kit. I think it would take a lot of practice to get really good with the pole though. I still prefer the backflip for pole work, for the rest Wagtail every time. I bought My Mrs a 12" Wagtail and she took to it straight away. Dai

[g_griffin]

  A WC`er I know switched to Stardrops (from Fairy) recently and has been raving about it.
    Easier to work with and cheaper he says. I`ve not tried it myself though.

          Gerry.

[rosskesava]

Hot off the press.

I've had an e mail from Proctor and Gamble.

Their hand liking lovely dishes cleaning best product in the world that is constantly being improved ...... hasn't changed for years .......

I didn't get the bit they wrote about 'constantly improved' and 'has not changed for years' bit though so I'll e mail them again and report back.

Cheers

[Thecleanerservice]

Fairy Liquid is the market leader in it's field.  No question about it

Pj

[Moderator David@stives]

Its the only w/u liquid that dont dry my hands out .
the trade stuff just costs to much for the amount of windows i do in a day .i change my water about 5 times a day ,but that will reduce now i am using my wfp.