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Carpet Dawg

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Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2010, 12:15:41 am »
Jason, would you buy a site of me if i get it to number one? postion 1 on page 1 i mean, not just page one. Working all weekend but will make a start tomorrow night.

Westy, I'd love to mate but cant release my secrets :) plus the majority of my sites would get me kicked of this site lol

Mike, SEO is a huge industry! its and it'll be an ever ending battle of getting top postion! Theres millions of niches, types of business and locations in the world that seo companies can thrieve for years.

Cannon, you need to mention your keywords in the content of your site! i.e your text. In the first 100 charactors idealy as google reads the first 150 charactors to see what the site is about. Also, all your images need alt tags with your keywords.
Your site title and descriptions need filled out with, you guessed it keywords! Try and stick to 2 - 3 keywords only!
You also need H1,H2 and H3 tags.

Right enough seo class for one night lol

Tony

Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2010, 12:21:51 am »
Tony, I wouldnt mind seeing and would look forward to seeing a few examples of the 17 websites you have stated you run, or have built/designed.  

Westy, I'd love to mate but cant release my secrets :) plus the majority of my sites would get me kicked of this site lol


Yea whatever tony just post the links to the sites you have built eh  :-\  please show this forum your work.

Carpet Dawg

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Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2010, 12:51:14 am »
Paul, Understand that these sites that i own (never sold any or my services) took alot of research and the niches and keywords took up to 5 days in some cases to research! To make sure there was a market worth while to go after! I dont want to release the niches, keywords, ad placement, content, ideas or anything for that matter that can pontentialy jeopardize my sites performance or/and gain more competition! I dont know who is looking at this forum, now or the furture!

So no i cant share my sites, i'm sure you understand that but if you think i am talking hooey then thats fine too. I'm not selling my services so its not important that people believe me.

Of course, i'm more than happy to help out with website stuff on here :)

Geeesss think i need to think about commenting on things in the future!  ::)

Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2010, 01:03:49 am »
Paul, Understand that these sites that i own (never sold any or my services) took alot of research and the niches and keywords took up to 5 days in some cases to research! To make sure there was a market worth while to go after! I dont want to release the niches, keywords, ad placement, content, ideas or anything for that matter that can pontentialy jeopardize my sites performance or/and gain more competition! I dont know who is looking at this forum, now or the furture!

So no i cant share my sites, i'm sure you understand that but if you think i am talking hooey then thats fine too. I'm not selling my services so its not important that people believe me.

Of course, i'm more than happy to help out with website stuff on here :)

Geeesss think i need to think about commenting on things in the future!  ::)

Whatever Tony, I and others can make our own assumtions from your very weak reply. Your help with website stuff... think I'll pass mate.

Carpet Dawg

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Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2010, 02:29:21 am »
my very weak reply!?!? ah! my detailed reply was pretty indepth actualy if you understood internet marketing, maybe too indeph for your brain to cope with... Your a bit of a rude little twrip aren't you?  a twirp that doesn't want to be told that he's wrong but i'm sure you've been told that before eh  :-* night night

Mike Halliday

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Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2010, 07:00:02 am »
Tony are your website already viewable on the WWW? surly any competitor will already be aware of them and not need to join a carpet cleaning forum to view them they can just search your chosen field and your websites will be thier at the top.

but you don't have to show any its your choice( but it would make Westy eat humble if you did)

could we perhaps look at your carpet cleaning website because if you are willing to give advice on other websites then its only fair you show us how they should be done.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

ianharper

Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2010, 08:00:07 am »
Hi

Well done looks fine. need to sort

title out
need more town name on the page
and your offer is below the fold

Try getting more of you on the page

Its really nice to see that you know that an offer is important well done. its a good offer. you could add call today for a quote and get free bottle of spotter. this is called "call to action"

great URL I had not thought of this way of doing it.

Also think why people have carpets cleaned. spillages, events, etc by addressing this in your text you make a connection with the prospect.

you can hyperlink your text to other pages about say wine spillage. goggle loves this as it look at the words that are being used for the link and then the words that on the page it links.

the more you do this on the main page and then pages that are linking to each other you are creating what is call a silo. make sure you put no follow tags on any other link on that page that does not relate to that subject. this way you focus the PR of your pages and don't leak it out.

Good luck

Ian Harper




garry22

Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2010, 10:49:18 am »
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what happens when everything you need to do to get on the first page of google is already being done by the companies already occupying those places? with more companies getting websites at some point it must become impossible to get that allusive first page ranking.

Mike,

It's a competitive business. You need to keep on doing more than your competition to promote your site. I've got a site in the USA that is just getting onto page 2 after about six months promotion. Getting on to page 1 will be loads more work as that is where the fierce competition is.

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Tony are your website already viewable on the WWW? surly any competitor will already be aware of them and not need to join a carpet cleaning forum to view them they can just search your chosen field and your websites will be thier at the top.

I can understand the reluctance. Myself (or anyone else with the right software) could check out the niches to see if they are profitable. The next step would be to reverse engineer the sites, checking the on site SEO and more importantly, the backlinks. The next step would be to create a site (or buy an existing one) and come up with a slightly better linking strategy to outrank Tony.

On a darker side, there are people who hack sites and insert their own afilliate links instead, effectively hijacking commissions.

ianharper

Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2010, 03:14:44 pm »
Guys

Sometimes the direct approach can be expensive or take time but just think about all those sites that google targets for its adwords that have a link to our market.

Let me explain. you must have dropped leaflets in the past and had a customer that used your service because of that leaflet. well its the same in these other markets. your sites are about cleaning not about fun stuff. its like the things they sell at the checkouts. people have everything they need but what about those things they are not at the top of any list but they will be needed.

Sorry that I am a not just saying it, but you know my view on lurkers.

A lot of these other places are much easier to win say top goggle slot, or cheaper clicks.

Respect

Ian Harper

 

derek west

Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2010, 03:32:13 pm »
theres alot of wannabee web designers on here who think there clever slaggin off marks sites. when your startin out in carpet cleaning you need someone who can get you a site up at the cheapest possible price, then if ya wanna throw a bit more money at it to get it to number one, thats up to you. most of marks sites (depending on competition) get first page within a month or so and 2 jobs later youve got your money back. mark provides a basic package at a low price for start up carpet cleaners. giving them a foot on the ladder when money is tight due to start up costs. once your up and running, theres plenty of web designers out there who will take a few grand off you and design you a better one with better seo, but to be honest, were just carpet cleaners and a £200 site is plenty for us. i'd love to see all these wannabees build a site with all the bollox they keep saying mark misses out on  for £200, ( build it, redesign it cos someones not happy, change this, change that and seo it in 3 hours) shootin your mouth off is easy when you don't have to make a living out of it.

£200 gets you a half page in a glossy classified, or 2 to 3 months in the local paper, all with limited wording. or £200 get you a half decent website and a web address you can market to give people further info on your company.

if youve got time to build your own and you know what your doing then fine, do it yourself, but if your busy pushing your business, out leafletting, designing adds, and most importantly carpet cleaning and know f$%k all about web design and how to host them etc..., then get mark to do a site for you, it'll be the best £200 youve spent.

marks sites might not be everyones cup of tea, but there good for start ups and therefore good for ciu. give the guy a break FFS.
if he was charging £1000's then yeah, but he aint, £200 measly f%$kin quid gets you a half decent site and hosting for a year.

whats the fu$kin problem.


rant over.

clinton

Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2010, 04:04:19 pm »
Got to agree with you derek and i too would get one form mark or someone like kevin loomes who did a great site for me..

Dont think i wold bother with anyone else mind you!


Steve. Taylor

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Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2010, 04:08:44 pm »
Spoken like a true poet derek can i second that ;D
Steve T       All the gear but no idea!
www.leatherrepairsouthampton.co.uk

clinton

Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2010, 04:17:24 pm »
Il third it too ;D

jasonl

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Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2010, 04:28:16 pm »
I would buy one from anyone who offered them at £200 ,  imagine 5 sites on page one for a grand!

I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

wynne jones

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Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #54 on: August 07, 2010, 04:36:56 pm »
Well I think it looks fine. Had a look at some of the others and they don't seem any better. :-\

Do web sites pull in much work for you guys? I think if you live in a big city it might work but there is no substitute for getting off you backside and go looking for work. You don't need a computer science degree to do that.
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Bob Robertson

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Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2010, 04:54:04 pm »
Tony

Its not hard to find your site. Your based in Edinburgh, I googled carpet cleaning Edinburgh. The top site has its owners name on it who is called Tony . It may well be that there are 2 CC's called Tony in the same place, I could be wrong!

Bob(Sherlock)

clinton

Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #56 on: August 07, 2010, 05:13:42 pm »
Sherlock Bob ;D

jasonl

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Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #57 on: August 07, 2010, 05:15:24 pm »

Here you go!

http://www.dirtmaster.co.uk//about-us.html

top of google , not amazing content , ok though , top of google , not to be sniffed at.
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #58 on: August 07, 2010, 05:19:34 pm »
Tony are your website already viewable on the WWW? surly any competitor will already be aware of them and not need to join a carpet cleaning forum to view them they can just search your chosen field and your websites will be thier at the top.

but you don't have to show any its your choice( but it would make Westy eat humble if you did)

could we perhaps look at your carpet cleaning website because if you are willing to give advice on other websites then its only fair you show us how they should be done.

Yea if thats the one, no humble pie then Mike, Tony didnt build it  ;D

Doug Holloway

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Re: Opinions and criticism (constructive) please
« Reply #59 on: August 07, 2010, 06:14:21 pm »
Hi Guys

Always difficult with websites, ask a hundered people and get a hundred different answers.

I notice this is ranking on page 2 for carpet cleaning sunderland which is a start but will need to be on the first page to actually bring in much work. Sunderland is quite a competitive internet town and it won't be easy

I believe the most important thing is getting a high ranking and then when the potential custy clicks on your site they can find how to contact you.

For most people carpet cleaning is about as interesting as synchronised swimming and they will not hang around for ages trying to find who you are and what your tel no is, make them clear.

Cheers

Doug