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Cleanbright UK

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Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« on: July 20, 2010, 05:42:04 pm »
Just wondering if anyone has bought/tried one yet, We've just got one on loan to have a play with but typically we have no upholstry booked in for this week >:(, So just seeing if anyone has any views on it :)

http://www.sapphirescientific.com/Content_003.aspx?cid=1233
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Simon Gerrard

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Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2010, 05:44:43 pm »
Gary,
I spoke to Paul Robinson about loaning one but he's off sick at the moment. Who did you speak to to get one on loan, I'm assuming it was someone at Prochem?

Simon

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Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2010, 05:56:32 pm »
Hi Simon, We got it from Dri-Eaz as we were at their open day last week and got chatting, but I believe Prochem are dealing with the tools where as Dri-Eaz are doing the Truckmount range :)
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Simon Gerrard

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Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2010, 06:34:53 pm »
Gary,

Have you tested out the Upholstery Pro yet. If not hurry up, ;D I'm next in line.
Simon

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Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2010, 08:01:37 pm »
Gary,

Have you tested out the Upholstery Pro yet. If not hurry up, ;D I'm next in line.
Simon

Simon, We've used it a couple of times now and its pretty good, Old man likes it as its easier on his arm ::), So looks like we're be buying this one so hopefully they have another one for you to try ;D
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james roffey

Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2010, 08:06:55 pm »
How does it differ/compare with the Drymaster

Cleanbright UK

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Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2010, 08:14:08 pm »
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Simon Gerrard

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Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2010, 09:16:55 pm »
James,

apparently it has all the features of a DM but also has a trigger and that may well overcome the problem the DM has of using tons of water.

Simon

james roffey

Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2010, 09:56:53 pm »
I thought the drymaster did have a valve you could turn it off, though i have not used one.
Also i thought the reason the drimaster reduced fatigue was because it did not have a trigger, so how do you have a trigger and still reduce fatigue?

Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)

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Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2010, 10:00:55 pm »
I would rather have a bit of fatigue than the constant filling and emptying.

MAX Carpets

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Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2010, 08:34:29 am »
How much are they?


Cleanbright UK

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Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2010, 02:51:39 pm »
I thought the drymaster did have a valve you could turn it off, though i have not used one.
Also i thought the reason the drimaster reduced fatigue was because it did not have a trigger, so how do you have a trigger and still reduce fatigue?

The trigger is extreamly light, So light you can hardly feel it :o, It also has a lock catch so it stays on constantly, Not noticed any difference in water consumption either so that seems fine, Id recommend testing one as we found it very good :D
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Joe H

Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2010, 03:18:38 pm »
Derek wont be getting one. 
He will put me in the same classification as glides.

Sounds like they are very light - made for girls.  ;D
 

colin thomas

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Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2010, 05:03:55 pm »
simon, i thought you bought a cfr lookalike from usa that had a trigger and had a teflon head or is that what we are talking about?

 ???
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Jim_77

Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2011, 02:01:40 pm »
Received my new Upholstery Pro tool from Nick this week, and have quickly trialled it alongside my Drimaster 2: cleaned my van seats, a couple of cushions and dining chairs at home yesterday.  Interesting results!

Unfortunately my drimaster 2 is now ready for the scrapheap, after only 18 months of use.... and I don't really clean masses of upholstery, so it has had relatively little use.  Said it before and will say it again, a very expensive piece of cr*p in my opinion.  I'll keep it in case I get a big commercial job to dual-tool on, but I know which tool I'll be using if a job like that comes up!

The biggest problem with the drimaster is the way it is made; its flimsy plastic means the vac slots pinch up together under the high vacuum of a truckmount, and the metal lips stay bent into that position.  This causes 2 problems, firstly the air flow is choked which destroys cleaning performance and leaves loads of water behind.  Secondly, the metal lips snag fabrics - I have had a few brown trouser moments on some suites, luckily been able to sort them out.

But anyway enough of that.

The Upholstery Pro is very light and seems to be pretty ergonomic to use - obviously with any new tool it takes a bit of getting used to but early indications are good.

The trigger locking mechanism is a bit naff in my opinion, because it rubs along so close to the fabric you can disengage it without realising...  sometimes you can extract the rest of the section without water, only to find out when you lift the tool off!  That could have done with a bit more thought in the design stage.  It's also a bit pointless because the way you grip the tool most of the time you grip it by the trigger anyway!  Not a big deal really.

The solution flow control is 10ft away from the tool at the other end of the hide-a-hose, totally pointless!  With a TM you have a ball valve just 6 inches away on the end of your solution line which does the same thing!  After using the DM2 with the control numpty on the tool you do miss that feature a little.  However I suppose when you first get going on a job, you will set the flow to the required level and leave it there.  I wouldn't want to touch the brass control numpty half way through a job anyway, it'll burn my fingers!  I might just remove it.

When the tool is not placed against a fabric, the solution spits from the outlet holes - it doesn't go into a nice neat sheet as with the DM2.  Also, with solution flow above a certain level it actually just spews solution all over the place, whereas with the Drimaster you can lift it off the fabric at any rate of flow and it doesn't spill a drop.  But I don't find this a major issue, as I'll probably mostly be using the trigger so it won't be flowing when I put the tool down for a few seconds

The glide is plastic, and can stick to fabrics a little bit.  If someone made an after-market TEFLON glide for this tool it would totally transform it! (I put that bit in bold, in case anyone who can manufacture glides is listening!)

Those are really the only down-sides I have found, none of which make it unusable... just peculiarities of the tool that you learn to work with, the same as any piece of kit.

The biggest plus point with this tool is the internal design, in terms of air flow.  With my TM on idle, the DriMaster 2 in open flow pulls the vac gauge up to 7.5.  The Upholstery Pro makes much less resistance to air, reading only about 4 on the gauge.  I think that is very good considering the type of design.  It definitely leaves MUCH less moisture behind than my knackered DM2.

I've seen Simon Gerrard's pics of his, when he has opened it up.  Unfortunately it looks like fluff etc is going to snag up on the internals and need cleaning out regularly, but this tool is SO much easier to work on than the DM2 (which itself gets clogged up inside)  The drimaster has lots of fiddly allen screws to undo and then it literally falls to pieces when you open it!  The Sapphire just has a few posidrive screws and opens up neatly.

The hide-a-hose seems to be more flexible than the one you get with the DM2.  Might not seem a big deal to some people but it can be frustrating fighting against hoses with a mind of their own!  Let's hope the flexibility doesn't mean it collapses under high heat & vacuum, shouldn't do as it feels solid enough.

I had to return my DM2 after a few times of use because the flow numpty was leaking.  At least with this tool it has a generic trigger valve which costs very little to rebuild or replace.  The typeI use are very durable, I last changed the one in my standard hand tool about 3 years ago and it regularly gets used at 500psi scalding hot on stairs.  So that's reassuring.

The heat shielding jacket is a great idea, so your QDs don't burn any floors they are sitting on

Overall, the build quality appears good but I thought that about the DM2 so we'll see in 12 months time....

Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)

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Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2011, 02:37:42 pm »
Don't beat around the bush Jim - how do you rate it  ;D

colin thomas

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Re: Sapphire Scientific Hand Tool
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2011, 07:17:39 pm »
thanks jim, you have confirmed to me that the cfr is far and away the best upholstery tool on the market, bar none,

colin      8)
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