[Micky Boy]

im looking to buy a wfp system should i get a hot or cold one

[Ste M]

what sort of round have you got? how many houses or comercial contracts?

[Micky Boy]

i have not started yet im looking in to buying a system and just looking for advice on whats the best system to buy.. when i get started id be looking to do both 

[Ste M]

right if you were to buy the likes of a hot pure freedom system brand new the cost is around 6k, then you have to have a van to fit it in so say another 4k minimum really, then you have all the other bits an bobs you always need so about another £500, so over 10k and you dont have a customer.

Whereabouts are you?

find out the tds of your water?

get a traditional set up and learn the ropes on your own an friends houses (£250ish)

get some customers?

get some more customers?

get a backpack or trolley?

when you have enough custmoers then look at the van and going hot?

[Micky Boy]

after just leavin the forces i have saved abit of money and could afford to get a decent van and system.
but i do understand were u are comeing from, best to see if the work is out there first before investing my money on a van and wfp system

 

[P @ F]

2 sides to this coin though , if you look at the money you would spend on a trolley and all the gubbins , and put it in your car , then there is the pure water you would have to take with you , in no time at all you will have no space left .

I would at least buy a small van , combo caddy , or the like , put in a DIY van mount , lets face it , the bits from the right places could well come to less than the cost of certain trolleys.

I started with an astra van and a 175L diy mount , this then grew to 425L in a VW T4 , all the parts that were stored have just been pulled from the shed again and gone into my second van , small again combo .

I guess my point is dont make it harder than it is at the start as if it works for you upgrade will come sooner than you think .

Rich

 

[Nathanael Jones]

Hot is nicer to work with and cleans stubborn dirt easier, & custies love that you're offering something more than most of your competitors,... but just starting out I'd recommend a pure freedom cold system with a couple of gardiner poles,.. good quality but still fairly cheap. If you like window cleaning you can always get the hot box as an addon at a later date,.. if you don't you'll be able to sell that kit easily without making too much of a loss.

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[Darranvps]

Just get yourself an ionics pr-6 thermopure.
Top quality kit - go and see for yourself they are based in Swindon.
Best bet is to get a 1000 ltr system with twin ro (fast fill) and twin pumps (for two man operation).
This way you will always have enough water for the whole day, no matter how big a building you are cleaning.
Buying this system now will save you a lot of money in the long run.
Make sure you get a good selection of poles, my advise would be a 12ft, 18ft, 24ft 35ft, 45ft, 72ft.

This is what I have started out with more or less, business started march 2010.
I have fit the ionic system (pro-7) into a Peugeot boxer MWB high roof.

We can tackle any job!

Good luck.

[P @ F]

OH , and thats the other side of the coin , little drastic there Darran 

RICH

[Dave Willis]

I would buy the top of the range Ionics kit with heater and 100l tank and a huge great van. You know it makes sense 
Then stand well back and watch for the stampede of customers throwing themselves at you.
Great advice for someone who hasn't got a customer.

[P @ F]

So do you think i made sense , or was i reaching too high to start ?

Rich

[Dave Willis]

Perfect sense i thought.

The other guy recommending a 1000l system to someone with no customers would seem a bit ambitious.

[P @ F]

Yeh , my thought too , it was the perfect set up for me for the first 12 months , i then found myself going home half way through the day to refill , that was my reason for the bigger van to hold the bigger tanks , my advice is to not go mental to start , but then dont under do it either , i was lucky , i hit my area chosen at the right time , my round was full within 6 months , lucky break for me , so i suppose a bit of market research on your area is always a winner before you go out and spend silly money.

Rich P @ F

[Darranvps]

I would buy the top of the range Ionics kit with heater and 100l tank and a huge great van. You know it makes sense 
Then stand well back and watch for the stampede of customers throwing themselves at you.
Great advice for someone who hasn't got a customer.

I was in that position in March, now looking at fitting out second van. I intend buying some work to speed up a little

[Dave Willis]

I'm looking at fitting out ten vans 

[Smudger]

Micky - dont go spending thousands on a van and system,
get or put together a system on a budget, that way you will have money left to live on while building
up your business.

dont let others send all your hard earned money for you ( until you know weather or not they have a
successful business! )

just got to pop off to the merc dealership to look at my new fleet........

Darran

[NJWindowCleaning]

If your just start up I would advise to get a 250 Litre tank with a couple of 25litre tank that fits onto a freedom trolley and 18ft pole with a 42ft pole.
Reason for the trolley it has a 100psi pump on it and the battery all on it and you can use this like a van system but when there is houses where the hose isnt long enough you can disconnect from the large tank and take  the trolley to get where you need to be not tied to the van or car which ever you use to transport.
So when a business grows you can just get a bigger tank if you require more water or get another 10 x25litres tank for an add on and then think whether you need a Hot system or not. 

[Clive McDonald]

Most advisers would tell you to spend the money.

The DIY route takes time to learn- a year maybe.

Get a good van, a good system.

Also a business plan that includes marketing.