[Ian Gourlay]

I saw Brian Tracy this morning who said you need a product at a price people are prepared to pay.

I know that does not help.
I believe Fast Tra cks Special Offer according to Utube Newsletter Video is Free Protection this month#

Hence the £200 price tag

[Neil Williams]

Hence the £200 price tag

And I still wouldn't pay someone £200 to do my 23x12 lounge with protector or not.
I'd sooner pay £400 and get a brand new carpet and look after it better, knowing that a brand new carpet will naturally have protection qualities and will still look better than a cleaned carpet. Harsh but true.
Sorry to blow some peoples bubble but a 53 reg car will still look like a 53 reg car no matter how much polish you put on it.

[derek west]

your analogies will go down in history on here neil. complete bow locks but talk about a laugh.

are you saying that a professional valeter with excessive training in body scratch repair, rust removal, T cutting skills etc... couldn't make a shabby 53 reg any better than you can, and therefore not worth the extra money he charges? your avin a giraffe mate.

[Mike Halliday]

my living room cost £650 plus fitting but what was worse was the hassle of taking up the old carpet, emptying the room and shopping 4 saturdays on a row looking for" the right carpet that would match the suite"( according to my wife)

lots of people feel the same escpecaily OAPs they don't want the hassle of changing the carpet so will pay what seems to be too higher price to have it cleaned.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Median earnings of full-time male employees were £531 per week in April 2009 (found on a search)

that's £27612 per year for a paid job with holiday entitlements of 6 weeks minimum including bank hols.

So to earn that you have to divide £27612 by 46 weeks = £600 a week every week, and say running costs are £15k you need to take £42k a year and hope you don't get a quiet spell and nothing breaks and you never have to replace your equipment or van or ever get sick so you can earn the same as the man next door (who may even get a pension thrown in for free)

Shaun

[JandS]

And that figure is before tax.

John

[Neil Williams]

your analogies will go down in history on here neil. complete bow locks but talk about a laugh.

Voice of reason me mate  And you know it

are you saying that a professional valeter with excessive training in body scratch repair, rust removal, T cutting skills etc... couldn't make a shabby 53 reg any better than you can,

No I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is it is still a 53 reg car no matter what you do to it, and those who know their cars will still say that is a 53 reg car even if it is as shiney as a brand new version.

And that figure is before tax.

And a lot of us who know how to play the system (legally I might add) will pay a lot less tax than those on straight forward employment, so that's not a fair comparison.
How many people do we know or read about earning £100k or more playing the system so they don't pay tax?

[Shaun_Ashmore]

The figure I researched was before tax.

To go on further a fulltime working week for an employed person is 39hours and that's based on 39 hours 'worked' as carpet cleaners we may only be working half that as there's working and quoting and paperwork etc

So to get £42k a year based on 20 cleaning hours per working week (that's 46 weeks) = 920 yearly cleaning hours.

That equates to £46.66 per hour to charge out at but that doesn't allow much fat as we are basing it on a full diary and no depreciation on machinery o vehicle.

Shaun

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Legally reducing your tax isn't guaranteed every year as the rules can change it's something you have to play by ear, I think for the sake of arguement straight figures should surfice for now.

Shaun

[derek west]

private plate

[Paul_Ashworth]

Nice one Derek and some more prestigious brands dont change the shape that much so dont date as fast !!

[cleantom]

Had one of the flyers through my door we all know. The one from, Alltec/Fastrack etc. With honest pricing, most thorough clean ever, 10 reasons why you must choose them, etc. I dare say many of you on here do it. But what a load of complete bull. And by chance I did a job yesterday who had the afore mentioned cleaner round to give him a quote. For a through lounge about 23 x 10 which took me an hour and a quarter to clean and which I charged £50 but this clown came round with his measuring wheel, turned on his lap top and came up with a price of £200 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah yeah i know there'll be some clowns on here who will agree with this price. But come on, £200 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ?? You could almost buy a new carpet  at that price. He said he would do it for £100 if he would sign up for £16 a month direct debit maintenance programme.
I called this carpet cleaner and asked him about Belgium Wiltons. He said he cleans them no problem. He didnt mention they could shrink. His website shows a video with a truckmount but his equipment description says they use Alltec twin vacs and carpets dry in 2hrs. I know, I should just let it go lol But it just winds me up.

Chris

Hi, I would have charged £105 & it would have taken me 2 hrs in total. This £200 quote was probably for protector as well, if that is the case then IMO it is what I would have charged.

You said you charged £50? What sort of profit do you think your left with? not alot.. the only person who was laughing was the customer.

Belgium wiltons can be cleaned, preferably by LM, but if using HWE with as little moisture as possible & using blowers - can't see the problem with not telling you they may shrink, I don't tell my customers that as it will put them off having the job done.

If this guy uses a alltec twin vac and says he can dry the carpets in 2 hrs he is probably using using blowers and depending on what type of fibre he is cleaning, then that can be achieved.

I use an Advance triple vac 600psi & today I completed 3 bedrooms, 2 flights of stairs & 2 landings and even though my triple vac leaves the carpet touch dry, I still use blowers and when I pack away the carpets surface appears to be dry by touch (although the backing is not).

Why knock someone for pricing, in my view, correctly.

Cheers Tommy.

[Carpet Dawg]

Median earnings of full-time male employees were £531 per week in April 2009 (found on a search)

that's £27612 per year for a paid job with holiday entitlements of 6 weeks minimum including bank hols.

So to earn that you have to divide £27612 by 46 weeks = £600 a week every week, and say running costs are £15k you need to take £42k a year and hope you don't get a quiet spell and nothing breaks and you never have to replace your equipment or van or ever get sick so you can earn the same as the man next door (who may even get a pension thrown in for free)

Shaun

Aye right... 6 weeks holiday a year! I know alot of employed people and no one i know gets 6 weeks holiday a year, a school teacher maybe but the average Joe certinaly does not.
And as for the average earners thats seems rather high. Which sites did you vist that make these claims? you shouldn't beleive everything you hear on the internet specialy not wiki if thats where u got it from...

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Think 6 weeks is 4 weeks hols and rest is stats.

Stats of from a government website.

Shaun

[cleantom]

Median earnings of full-time male employees were £531 per week in April 2009 (found on a search)

that's £27612 per year for a paid job with holiday entitlements of 6 weeks minimum including bank hols.

So to earn that you have to divide £27612 by 46 weeks = £600 a week every week, and say running costs are £15k you need to take £42k a year and hope you don't get a quiet spell and nothing breaks and you never have to replace your equipment or van or ever get sick so you can earn the same as the man next door (who may even get a pension thrown in for free)

Shaun

Aye right... 6 weeks holiday a year! I know alot of employed people and no one i know gets 6 weeks holiday a year, a school teacher maybe but the average Joe certinaly does not.
And as for the average earners thats seems rather high. Which sites did you vist that make these claims? you shouldn't beleive everything you hear on the internet specialy not wiki if thats where u got it from...

I think tony20 you got a lot of life skills to learn young man....

These are probably average earnings which are calculated using Government data. Doesn't matter if you know a teacher, whoever, it's averaged out so in most cases it seems higher than what Joe Bloggs earns in the street.

Tommy.

[Jason Ryan]

I dissagree slightly that it only takes 15 mins to be a carpet cleaner and a 'monkey' can do it.

OK you aint need a few year training and serve an apprentiship, but its also not just the job at hand (carpet cleaning. upholstery, hard floors etc), you have to market your business (people get paid good money just for marketing), accounts, staffing (more costs) etc.

BUT not 'any monkey' can run a BUSINESS and all that it entails.

I see it also as an image thing to some, just like you can buy a jumper in primark for £5-£10, but some will chose to pay £100-£500 for an item that does the same thing and looks simular but the difference is that item has a croc on the chest or a badge on the arm......its branded differently, and appeals to a different type of buyer.

Sell yourself well and if you get £200 per room for a good job then great-nobody forcing the client to hire that cleaner.

[Carpet Dawg]

Median earnings of full-time male employees were £531 per week in April 2009 (found on a search)

that's £27612 per year for a paid job with holiday entitlements of 6 weeks minimum including bank hols.

So to earn that you have to divide £27612 by 46 weeks = £600 a week every week, and say running costs are £15k you need to take £42k a year and hope you don't get a quiet spell and nothing breaks and you never have to replace your equipment or van or ever get sick so you can earn the same as the man next door (who may even get a pension thrown in for free)

Shaun

Aye right... 6 weeks holiday a year! I know alot of employed people and no one i know gets 6 weeks holiday a year, a school teacher maybe but the average Joe certinaly does not.
And as for the average earners thats seems rather high. Which sites did you vist that make these claims? you shouldn't beleive everything you hear on the internet specialy not wiki if thats where u got it from...

I think tony20 you got a lot of life skills to learn young man....

These are probably average earnings which are calculated using Government data. Doesn't matter if you know a teacher, whoever, it's averaged out so in most cases it seems higher than what Joe Bloggs earns in the street.

Tommy.

Oh is that right! lol Its terrible being young isn't it and not knowing nowt  :  I'll wait till i'm a couple decades older before having an opinion.

Personaly i think 6 weeks is a typo as that amount of hols is simply not possible..

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

6 weeks including bank holidays Tony.

Most employees get 20 days, some will get 25 after a certain length of service. Add to that Xmas, New Year, Easter, May day etc;etc

[Carpet Dawg]

but 20 days is only 2.8 weeks 

anyways, never mind i'm going off topic.

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

I know what you mean mate, I guess people say they are having a week off work, but they are only actually using 5 days - who cares anyway, I'm off to Spain on saturday for my first week off in a year - great working for yourself isn't it ?!