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blacksheep

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end of tenancy
« on: August 24, 2005, 02:51:56 am »
hi,I just did a very stupid thing, i advertised on my local web site, and wrote the different services i do , i also said end of tenancy cleaning, but i have never done one,how hard can it be. i have done offices ,factorys, supermarkets,& a day on a builders clean ,now that was back breaking. do i have to wash walls down, i dont know .order a skip, jump in with both feet .Any advice on what this job entails.not that i will get much work,i dont think many people go on the forum, thats why i did it ,i thought the odd job factory unit to get me started,so i could build up a little money
GOD i dont half waffle a lot at this time in the morning,just got in from work,better get some shut eye,nite

Jan K

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Re: end of tenancy
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2005, 07:07:21 am »
Hi blacksheep

I tend to visit the property and assess how bad a state it's in nefore I quote, but bear in mind that deposits are lost if properties aren't cleaned to an expected standard (which in my experience is that the property needs to look as tho it's never been lived in).

They can be back breaking!

Good luck!

Jan

PS Who is more sad, you on here at 3 in the morning or me at 7 lol  ;D
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mxg

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Re: end of tenancy
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2005, 08:44:25 pm »
I agree with Jan on this one. I would never price an end of tenancy without seeing the property. There are too many variables - you would not believe how some people live.

We are developing relationships with some letting agents and are in the process of compiling a flyer that the letting agent will send to the tenant about a month before the end of the contract - it will include "indicative" prices i.e a 2 bed flat/apartment from £xxx, 3 bed house from £yyy. The thing about end of tenancy is that the size of the property isn't really what counts, its how people lived in/treated the property - I have seen 1 bed apartments take longer (a lot longer than!) a 3 bed house.

Worst to do is the kitchen, then the bathrooms/en suites - after that you've cracked it.

An interesting recent development that we came across - a clause inserted in the tenants contract obliges them to take & pay for 2 hours of domestic cleaning on a weekly basis.

The nightmare scenario is when the cost of restoring the property to a pristine state exceeds the bond/deposit - this is a much harder sell.

Now that I'm in full flow. The thing that irritates me is that the letting agent calls us up to go and price a job but is not then in a position to give the go ahead without getting approval from the owner/landlord who probably hasn't  seen the property in its current state.

Phew. Enough for now!

Mick

Jan K

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Re: end of tenancy
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2005, 08:55:20 pm »
Mick, that clause in the tenancy agreement re the 2 hours cleaning....what an absolutely excellent idea..........think they should all do that...........then I predict some extremely well off domestic cleaning companies on the cards lol!

Jan ;)
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Rob_Mac

Re: end of tenancy
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2005, 09:01:16 pm »
I went to look at an end of tenancy clean today that had been priced for me by my contact at the letting agents.

Cream carpets in a rental property!!!!!!

The job was twice as much and then another flat price up was clean when I went in till I hit the kitchen and bathroom.

The old tenants seemed to have a sticker fetish - they had been stuck on everything.

Be prepared - people do not always have the same way of living as you expect.

As has been said they are extremely hard work

Rob ;D

blacksheep

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Re: end of tenancy
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2005, 01:53:21 am »
many thanks for your help on this one,does not seem a good one to do as a start up while still working full time,i think staff would be hard to find even though i could just about swing offices for a few weeks

Rob_Mac

Re: end of tenancy
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2005, 08:39:50 pm »
Blacksheep

Don't give up on something so easily.

I do all my end of tenancy cleans at the end of a day working on window cleaning or on the weekends.

If you want to create the business you will do whatever it takes.

It is no harder to do this option on top of a full time job as anything else you may consider.

If you feel you can give a good, honest service then you are as good as anyone else that offers this service.

Rob ;D

Jan K

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Re: end of tenancy
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2005, 08:50:50 pm »
Hi Blacksheep!

I agree with Rob on this one..........bsides which, once you are fully established as a cleaning company and have given up your exisitng full-time job, you will still be looking at doing end of tenancy cleans but on top of all your other regular cleaning jobs (which will then be your full-time job).

Squeeze this EOT clean in, it may be daunting and exhausting but it will certainly be fulfilling and satisfying, and of course bring in a nice few pennies! You do a good job and it will almost definately bring you in more work (sporadic maybe, but more), and it will stand you in good stead for new work when it comes in.

You can do it, we've all been there, and in a few months you will be looking back at newbies starting to post here, and think 'that was me once'  ;)

Good luck and go for it!

Jan
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blacksheep

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Re: end of tenancy
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2005, 03:06:14 am »
thanks guys, i always do what it takes now, working for someone else thats the reason i am starting up myself,i might as well do it for myself,i dont have a 9-5 job this week covering for hols i am working twlight, then a week on days then a split shift 4 -1 then back at night 5 - 2, some times i put in 50 - 60 hours per week,not afraid of hard graft just trying to wonder how i am going to work it around work cos i need the wage without them copping on. i also want to give them a months notice, its that month i am going to find a killer,oh i not giving up,far from it i cant wait i just hope i i get enought work so my hubby dont get shirty with, but thats his prob, hes not a happy chappy that i am giving up a good job to do it on my own,so to save agro i have kept most of this away from him,but caught him reading my t&c which i left on table the other day, with a scoll on his face,i know he will support me when i am up and running but could do with it now,but then i have had you lot as my support and advice,my forum family as it were and am very greatful to you all, its the end of another day im off to my cot now nite or is morning ;D

Jan K

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Re: end of tenancy
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2005, 10:48:51 am »
There ya go blacksheep, and there was me thinking you were a man, cos blacksheep just seemed like a male user name to me!

Your hubby is probably just a little frightened that you are giving up something secure for something not! I didn't have that problem as I was unemployed when I started up, but a year down the line I am earning twice as much as I was before I was made redundant!

My other half can sometimes be critical and unsupportive, but I think that is more the fact that I am working for myself and can (almost) do as I please now, where he is stuck in the same old job he has been for years (may be a sideways promotion on the cards, but that's a wait and see scenario).

It must be a real trial having to work your shifts (my other half does similar) as you cannot really get into a proper routine (and nor can the family). I hate by partner's shifts (he's been doing them for 10 years) and his company change them whenever they please...........what a pain!

Anyway Blacksheep, you're getting there and that's what counts...........don't wear yourself out tho, and make sure you take time out for yourself to relax  ;)

Jan


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blacksheep

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Re: fao jan k
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2005, 11:17:53 pm »
thanks jan, i called myself blacksheep because in my family i always do the oppisit that everone expects,thanks i always enjoy reading your replys

Jan K

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Re: end of tenancy
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2005, 02:48:55 pm »
lol Blacksheep.......you go for it and then you can show all your family that the blacksheep of the family doesn't always prove them right!!

Let us know how your one-off clean went and your experiences from it too!

Cheers!

Jan
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