[JSMC]

possibly 20%

same old tories as before

[john tomkins]

Problem is the country is nearly 1 trillion pounds in debt, what else do you suggest

[Darranvps]

I can't wait for it to be 20% it will be easy to calculate it in your head then

[martinsadie]

there was a time in the 70s when the vat on some goods was 25% and that was a labour govt 

[e newlands]

labour conservatives liberals all the same

hit the working man

when was the last time the royal family or mps got a pay cut

tossers the lot of them

[rg1]

Everybody knows that taxes would have to go up whoever came to power. VAT increase is one of the only options that avoids lower income families being hit. i.e there is no vat on food.

[YWCS]

when was the last time   mps got a pay cut

today!

[e newlands]

good
first chance they get they will vote themselves longer hols to make up for it

[Paul Coleman]

Everybody knows that taxes would have to go up whoever came to power. VAT increase is one of the only options that avoids lower income families being hit. i.e there is no vat on food.

But there is on petrol and diesel that transports the food.  And it will get factored in to the general inflation rate that may determine how interest rates go for the mortgages.

[AuRavelling79]

Wot a bunch of whingers! 

I look around 90% of this world and thank the "falling of chance - aka good luck" that I was born in Britain to a working class family.

Sure I could be in Canada or Oz but I could just as well be in Eritrea, Bangladesh or Haiti.

I actually live in a place where my healthcare, while not perfect, is in place and affordable to me; my mother is cossetted in her old age, where I can work and earn to the best of my ability and have plenty of leisure time. My kids can go to college for free. I can own my own house or live in comfy accommodation at reasonable rent. I live in a country where a window cleaner - a window cleaner for goodness sake - can run two vehicles, go abroad for holidays, drink and eat out inexpensively.

What's not to be content with? I don't mind my Hungarian, Indian and British neighbours (even the chavs next door are better now the kids are at college and their stepfather is back on the dustbins). The police/council have evicted the area's asbo family (finally) and the twoccers seem to have been curbed by immobilisers and law enforcement. The beat of rotors comes round reassuringly often to chase the local druggies.

And politically, all my life it's swung between labour and tories with a bit of LD in local government - they are "all the same" - but in a way that curbs accesses and allows for improvement. The worst I have known is power cuts and strikes in the 70's - good fun as a kid - and waste not being collected.

Sure I can cock my life up or walk under a bus - but hey, stop moaning and look for the positives.

Rant over!

[john tomkins]

Wot a bunch of whingers! 

I look around 90% of this world and thank the "falling of chance - aka good luck" that I was born in Britain to a working class family.

Sure I could be in Canada or Oz but I could just as well be in Eritrea, Bangladesh or Haiti.

I actually live in a place where my healthcare, while not perfect, is in place and affordable to me; my mother is cossetted in her old age, where I can work and earn to the best of my ability and have plenty of leisure time. My kids can go to college for free. I can own my own house or live in comfy accommodation at reasonable rent. I live in a country where a window cleaner - a window cleaner for goodness sake - can run two vehicles, go abroad for holidays, drink and eat out inexpensively.

What's not to be content with? I don't mind my Hungarian, Indian and British neighbours (even the chavs next door are better now the kids are at college and their stepfather is back on the dustbins). The police/council have evicted the area's asbo family (finally) and the twoccers seem to have been curbed by immobilisers and law enforcement. The beat of rotors comes round reassuringly often to chase the local druggies.

And politically, all my life it's swung between labour and tories with a bit of LD in local government - they are "all the same" - but in a way that curbs accesses and allows for improvement. The worst I have known is power cuts and strikes in the 70's - good fun as a kid - and waste not being collected.

Sure I can cock my life up or walk under a bus - but hey, stop moaning and look for the positives.

Rant over!

Keep taking the drugs :

[dazmond]

GOLD!YOU TRULY ARE PURE GOLD!!



just think 80% of the worlds population hasnt got a pot to pee in.no clean water or proper sanitation.

mumbai slums anyone?(cash in hand/no tax/no questions asked!!)


didnt think so!!thank God we were born in this great country!!

[dave.e]

Wot a bunch of whingers! 

I look around 90% of this world and thank the "falling of chance - aka good luck" that I was born in Britain to a working class family.

Sure I could be in Canada or Oz but I could just as well be in Eritrea, Bangladesh or Haiti.

I actually live in a place where my healthcare, while not perfect, is in place and affordable to me; my mother is cossetted in her old age, where I can work and earn to the best of my ability and have plenty of leisure time. My kids can go to college for free. I can own my own house or live in comfy accommodation at reasonable rent. I live in a country where a window cleaner - a window cleaner for goodness sake - can run two vehicles, go abroad for holidays, drink and eat out inexpensively.

What's not to be content with? I don't mind my Hungarian, Indian and British neighbours (even the chavs next door are better now the kids are at college and their stepfather is back on the dustbins). The police/council have evicted the area's asbo family (finally) and the twoccers seem to have been curbed by immobilisers and law enforcement. The beat of rotors comes round reassuringly often to chase the local druggies.

And politically, all my life it's swung between labour and tories with a bit of LD in local government - they are "all the same" - but in a way that curbs accesses and allows for improvement. The worst I have known is power cuts and strikes in the 70's - good fun as a kid - and waste not being collected.

Sure I can cock my life up or walk under a bus - but hey, stop moaning and look for the positives.

Rant over!

there's always one.

[Carl2009]

Gold - spot on mate. I've done a fair amount of travelling in past incarnations and I can tell you most people in this country don't know they are born.

[Paul Coleman]

Wot a bunch of whingers! 

I look around 90% of this world and thank the "falling of chance - aka good luck" that I was born in Britain to a working class family.

Sure I could be in Canada or Oz but I could just as well be in Eritrea, Bangladesh or Haiti.

I actually live in a place where my healthcare, while not perfect, is in place and affordable to me; my mother is cossetted in her old age, where I can work and earn to the best of my ability and have plenty of leisure time. My kids can go to college for free. I can own my own house or live in comfy accommodation at reasonable rent. I live in a country where a window cleaner - a window cleaner for goodness sake - can run two vehicles, go abroad for holidays, drink and eat out inexpensively.

What's not to be content with? I don't mind my Hungarian, Indian and British neighbours (even the chavs next door are better now the kids are at college and their stepfather is back on the dustbins). The police/council have evicted the area's asbo family (finally) and the twoccers seem to have been curbed by immobilisers and law enforcement. The beat of rotors comes round reassuringly often to chase the local druggies.

And politically, all my life it's swung between labour and tories with a bit of LD in local government - they are "all the same" - but in a way that curbs accesses and allows for improvement. The worst I have known is power cuts and strikes in the 70's - good fun as a kid - and waste not being collected.

Sure I can cock my life up or walk under a bus - but hey, stop moaning and look for the positives.

Rant over!

I can't find the link now but when I entered some details into a website recently, it turned out that I am in the richest 0.96% of the world's population.  I find that hard to believe but it wouldn't surprise me if I'm in the richest 10%.

[rg1]

Everybody knows that taxes would have to go up whoever came to power. VAT increase is one of the only options that avoids lower income families being hit. i.e there is no vat on food.

But there is on petrol and diesel that transports the food.  And it will get factored in to the general inflation rate that may determine how interest rates go for the mortgages.

Petrol & diesel will go up in price irrespective of any vat rise and the poorest people in our communities ( which i was referring to) rarely have mortgages.

[amayze]

Well said Gold.

Isn't it something like 1/3rd of the world's population have yet to make their first phonecall?
and 1 in 6 of the Worlds Population live on less than 1 dollar a day !

[richard jagger]

MP s had a pay cut yesterday by 5% so lets get our country`s dept down so we can live again.

[G Griffin]

Wot a bunch of whingers! 

I look around 90% of this world and thank the "falling of chance - aka good luck" that I was born in Britain to a working class family.

Sure I could be in Canada or Oz but I could just as well be in Eritrea, Bangladesh or Haiti.

I actually live in a place where my healthcare, while not perfect, is in place and affordable to me; my mother is cossetted in her old age, where I can work and earn to the best of my ability and have plenty of leisure time. My kids can go to college for free. I can own my own house or live in comfy accommodation at reasonable rent. I live in a country where a window cleaner - a window cleaner for goodness sake - can run two vehicles, go abroad for holidays, drink and eat out inexpensively.

What's not to be content with? I don't mind my Hungarian, Indian and British neighbours (even the chavs next door are better now the kids are at college and their stepfather is back on the dustbins). The police/council have evicted the area's asbo family (finally) and the twoccers seem to have been curbed by immobilisers and law enforcement. The beat of rotors comes round reassuringly often to chase the local druggies.

And politically, all my life it's swung between labour and tories with a bit of LD in local government - they are "all the same" - but in a way that curbs accesses and allows for improvement. The worst I have known is power cuts and strikes in the 70's - good fun as a kid - and waste not being collected.

Sure I can cock my life up or walk under a bus - but hey, stop moaning and look for the positives.

Rant over!

Correct!  Especially about the 70`s.
  I take it you`re referring to southern window cleaners though. Eating out?  .

[e newlands]

need a good war
that will kick start the building industry and everything else will follow