[dazmond]

im getting mightly cheesed off now!!as most of you know i bought a new van a few weeks ago.anyway my girlfriends friends son moved into a flat on fri/sat last week so i helped out removing furniture etc.NEVER AGAIN!!im in pain with my right knee again!!no way can i climb ladders today!!

if anyone asks me to move heavy furniture again im just gonna have to say NO!!i have shed loads of work to do,i had a few days off last week not feeling well. : :

just have to rest it and hope its ok tommorrow. ::)it hurts just walking on it.

ive spent 16 years on the ladders.the sooner a go wfp the better. :

[paul rulton]

feel 4ya daz    i know how frustrating it is    hey with my back n ur knee, wot a team we would
make    we could be cripple window cleaning    :
does it not help it u put a propper leg strap on it? 
hope it sorts out soon as, 4ya m8 

[Pj]

You'll be glad when you stop climbing ladders.  I did it for 18 years, my knees got so bad at times I had to really use my arms to drag me up to the next rung. 
I've been to the doctors many times, he sent me to a Podiatrist, who I now visit every 2 years, he fits me with foot instep supports, the theory is that they help "realign" my knees.
The best thing is go wfp - no more ladders.
Now after 5 years wfp, (mind you I am 56) I have permanent back ache, neck ache, carpal tunnel problems, chest pains too!   I won't be doing it for 15 years, I know that much, but it's bought me time.

[dazmond]

thanks PR CLEANING.i wear a tubagrip bandage on it every day!its different this time as its more than a little niggle.its swollen up a bit! :

maybe its time to pack it all in and do something else!im sick of window cleaning at the moment especially as im 100% trad!

CRIPPLE WINDOW CLEANING SERVICES!got a nice ring to it!

[Murdie window cleaning]

You'll be glad when you stop climbing ladders.  I did it for 18 years, my knees got so bad at times I had to really use my arms to drag me up to the next rung. 
I've been to the doctors many times, he sent me to a Podiatrist, who I now visit every 2 years, he fits me with foot instep supports, the theory is that they help "realign" my knees.
The best thing is go wfp - no more ladders.
Now after 5 years wfp, (mind you I am 56) I have permanent back ache, neck ache, carpal tunnel problems, chest pains too!   I won't be doing it for 15 years, I know that much, but it's bought me time.

If I'd read this post when I started last year I wouldn't have bothered starting  I know any job that continualy puts presure or wear onto the joints is going to cause a problem eventualy, but I suppose we all hope were going to be the lucky one that doesn't get affected.

[paul rulton]

thanks PR CLEANING.i wear a tubagrip bandage on it every day!its different this time as its more than a little niggle.its swollen up a bit! :

maybe its time to pack it all in and do something else!im sick of window cleaning at the moment especially as im 100% trad!

CRIPPLE WINDOW CLEANING SERVICES!got a nice ring to it!

im with u on that 1 as well m8    i was thinkin of buildin up my round & rentin it out.
but i cant cover the work myself   ah m8 i cant even be arsed 2put it in2 words : how sad is that  

[woody1]

daz try rapseed oil put with food very good for your joints bodybuilders use it also get a proper nee support it will help i have bad knees as well good luck mate

[Tom White]

It's got to be tough when bits of your body are wearing out.  I've had a dodgy shoulder for over a year, but it seems to be improving, but there was a point where  thought I'd better start looking for another occupation; which isn't easy after being self-employed for a number of years.

Anyway, here's what I do:

1.   Try and stay hydrated, apparently being de-hydrated causes more wear and tear on your joints.

2.   Gloucosamine tablet daily.

3.   Cod liver oil tablet daily.

4.   Take Ibruprofen three or four times a day when the pain was bad.

I've also heard about something called MSM, which I've not tried, but some runners use it (it's the new gloucosamine I was told), but I'll look into it.

[dazmond]

cheers tosh.i do take glucosamine/cod liver oil every day and have done for years.i also drink lots of water when im working.ive took ibuprofen with paracetomol(supposed to work better)when ive had a stiff back.

i just have to admit that i think its the extra weight im carrying!18 stone when i should be more like 15/16 for my height and build(6ft2in).that extra weight coupled with climbing ladders day in/day out and moving furniture and playing football with my brothers kids has taken its toll again!i forget im nearly 40 sometimes!! : :

cheers guys and thanks for all the tips!the best thing i can do for my future health is I NEED TO LOSE SOME WEIGHT!!!!!!!! : :

[AuRavelling79]

cheers tosh.i do take glucosamine/cod liver oil every day and have done for years.i also drink lots of water when im working.ive took ibuprofen with paracetomol(supposed to work better)when ive had a stiff back.

i just have to admit that i think its the extra weight im carrying!18 stone when i should be more like 15/16 for my height and build(6ft2in).that extra weight coupled with climbing ladders day in/day out and moving furniture and playing football with my brothers kids has taken its toll again!i forget im nearly 40 sometimes!! : :

cheers guys and thanks for all the tips!the best thing i can do for my future health is I NEED TO LOSE SOME WEIGHT!!!!!!!! ::) :

You've hit the nail on the head Dazmond. Do it now (before diabetes smacks you round the head) and do it by cycling or swimming(weight off your knees). Frankly - even at 6ft 2 you should really be 14 stones max.

When I was Chubby Mcfatso - 16 stones off of 6ft and up and down ladders I ached like an achy thing at age 39. I got down to 13 stones and that made a huge difference (42lbs off of your knees is a lot of weight eh?) and then wfp made it even better.

I'm now 51 and never felt fitter. But I need to lose a stone to get back to 13 again.

It'll prolly all go south now I've said that!

[Jeff Brimble]

Tablespoon of cider vinegar and honey in hot water 3x a day will reduce knee inflamation. It also acts as an apettite supressor.Trade name is "Honeygar"  If you dont like vinegar on your chips you may pucker up a bit 

[dazmond]

cheers jeff and gold.ill try the cider vinegar stuff!im off to see if the local tescos sells it!

good to here your in good shape GOLD!theres hope for me yet!!but not without a change of eating habits/more exercise!! :

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

yr not avin much luck me old m8 chin up daz

[Platinum]

Daz
While your taking so long to set up wfp why dont you invest in a new knee

Just a thought.... or you could give it a rub with a magic sponge like the footy players do

[dazmond]

thanks for that danny!i know your only a young lad! ;)i used to run up ladders all day every day for years with no problems!but as im hurtling towards my 40th birthday my right knees dodgy! : :

the swelling gone down a bit today.im off out this afternoon.dont know where to start!ive got loads of work due and overdue!! : ::)i think ill do 4 hours and ease myself back in slowly.

hopefully ill be ok by monday then its a 4 week onslaught to get round all my work!.............then start all over again! :

thanks for all the tips and jibes!

best wishes to everyone

regards

dazmond

[hotsteam]

Dazmond it might be worth getting it checked out by a ostoepath,I twisted my knee it swelled up could hardly move on it, my ostopath did it in one treatment cost £35 well worth it,that was  2 years ago.
The danger is you think it's ok then you go back to square one,also what is the cost of more days off work get it sorted now. Wishing you a speedy recovery Hotsteam 

[Platinum]

Are you going down the DIY route then daz for the WFP?

[dazmond]

no danny im gettin a brand new pure freedom trolley,20ft extel,12 25 lt barrels,2 DIs,a few other bits and pieces,extra hose etc.set me back about £1200.then ill get a 30 ft SLX when there back in stock and a 22ft CLX.

cant wait to get up and running(itll be 2 months max!).SAVE MY KNEES!!!

regards

dazmond

[dd]

It's got to be tough when bits of your body are wearing out.  I've had a dodgy shoulder for over a year, but it seems to be improving, but there was a point where  thought I'd better start looking for another occupation; which isn't easy after being self-employed for a number of years.

Anyway, here's what I do:

1.   Try and stay hydrated, apparently being de-hydrated causes more wear and tear on your joints.

2.   Gloucosamine tablet daily.

3.   Cod liver oil tablet daily.

4.   Take Ibruprofen three or four times a day when the pain was bad.

I've also heard about something called MSM, which I've not tried, but some runners use it (it's the new gloucosamine I was told), but I'll look into it.

Higher  nature is a good supplier for glucosamine and MSM. Seperate products but good to take both.

MSM is an organic form of sulphur which is involved in the formation of collagen and most other things in your body.

Excellent suggestion to drink lots of water throughout the day.