[Captain Scarlet]

NWH is right, the payload doesnt mean it can practically take that day in, day out up hills. you do need a good sized engine, at least a 1.9 or even more if you can. Thats not to say you wont be able to pull those weights but a larger engine will do it more ecenomically to, because it doesnt have to struggle, Luke

[macmac]

It's a workhorse, it's sposed to struggle. anyway, for 500 quid you can extend the FULL warranty from 3 years to 5.

Economy is about many things, not just fuel consumption.
Smaller van usualy less over-all running costs, lower purchase price etc.

Then you get the VW crowd how they hold a better re-sale value, yeah, probably true BUT they have tied up an extra 5 to 10k of funds for the privilege, which, inturn, if invested wisely would have earned them far more than what they eventualy gain from any sleightley higher resale premium.

Tony

[Central Window Cleaners]

I've been told that hyundia are bringing out a van in November that is the same size as the berlingo in Diesel that will do 70 mpg and will be under £9k to buy with 7 year warranty

[chrismroberts]

I've got the new Partner 850, which is essentially the same as the Berlingo. All I can say is EXCELLENT van... loads of room, holds 500 liter tank with poles + reels and all my trad gear easily. Pretty good stereo too.

NWH you are funny  if it has an 850KG payload then it will cope with 500ltr easily. How come you use a little connect van with 500ltr then?

The shocks and springs will cope but beleive me the engine won`t,i have a LWB turbo diesel connect with 500ltrs and it`s guttless.For 500ltrs you need a medium sized van ie vibaro trafic minimum,if you load a van like that it will drink fuel at an alarming rate,my van is going it`s just not man enough for carrying that amount of weight.I`ve said it before ignore the payloads on these vans,speak to someone who has 1 and get an honest opinion not a smarmy salesmans 1,payloads go on weight being carried it dosen`t tell you it will struggle to pull it.

Don't be put off by the size of the engine mate, the 1.6Hdi is more than enough for the job. Fully loaded it still pulls really well, will cruise at 80 and (apparently) give me 40mpg. My old Partner was the 1.9 diesel, flat I think, and struggled pulling 400 liters around.

[scud]

  I have just got a Berlingo First 1.6HDI 75 BHP, I have put a 500ltr tank in it - I know I will be overweight in the mornings but DILLIGAF - it pulls just fine and does not struggle when fully loaded.

  Some people talk so much crap they must be able to taste it.

[NWH]

Who you trying to kid lol.

[scud]

  I have sat at 80 this morning in it fully loaded, goes better than the Vito I have just got shot of.

  Not trying to kid anyone, just telling it like it is. I have no reason to BS anyone, I just get on with earning a living while shelling out as little as possible just because some internet warrior says it wont work unless you spend this and have that.

[NWH]

If you don`t do a lot of miles in it and your work is local i don`t see the problem but if like me you do lots of travelling with work etc it would be tiresome to drive,i find with the smaller engine vans you have to thrash them to get them to move when full.

[ftp]

NWH you seem to have a lot to say about things you know so little about.

[scud]

If you don`t do a lot of miles in it and your work is local i don`t see the problem but if like me you do lots of travelling with work etc it would be tiresome to drive,i find with the smaller engine vans you have to thrash them to get them to move when full.

  It has only done 180 miles, I got it yesterday morning, today was the first day out in it, it has definetly not been thrashed, it has not been over 3500rpm.

  I thrash my motorcycles as I do not keep them long, the van will be with me for 4 years and has to kepp working to earn its keep.

[Captain Scarlet]

Hyundia H1:


Peugeot Expert:

[Captain Scarlet]

this van is an interesting alternative to the Peugeot Expert:

www.hyundai.ie/templates/hyundai06/brochures/EquipmentSpecs2008/H1Van_Spec08.pdf

www.hyundai.ie/templates/hyundai06/brochures/H-1_brochure_2008.pdf


Similar size, payload, 3 seats etc etc. They are not available in the UK yet, but I spoke to Hyundai and they said you can buy them here and there are plans to release them next year or late this year!!!!

[Captain Scarlet]

the spec on this van is very very high:

www.hyundai.ie/configurator/index.cfm?fuseaction=hy.overview&modelID=2116&bodyID=4253

[macmac]

How much in pounds rupert the google virtuoso?

Tony