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scud

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Re: Convicts
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2010, 09:06:10 pm »
  Your posts seem to insinuate that anyone with a convition is going to rob your customers at the first oppotunity, I think this is perhaps very presumptious.

  As has been seen from the replies on here, you never know what skeletons lay in peoples closets and you can't ever be sure what people have in their past.

  Also in my opinion, mostly people who are convicted of burglary are people you wouldn't employ anyway because their level of intelligence. The real problems are the burglars with intelligence, they don't get caught - I guess that it is fpretty easy to burgal a house without getting caught - just takes a bit of thought and intelligence.

luther1

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Re: Convicts
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2010, 09:11:47 pm »
I've had 'background' searches done on myself and employees in the past when tendering for high profile contracts. If you don't employ anyone with a criminal record then you don't stand the risk of losing contracts. And yes,i have employed convicted people.

Perfect Windows

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Re: Convicts
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2010, 09:17:57 pm »
  Your posts seem to insinuate that anyone with a convition is going to rob your customers at the first oppotunity, I think this is perhaps very presumptious.

Your reading of my posts is clearly different from mine.

I said:

Who is more likely to burgle a house or violently lose his temper with a customer?  Someone with a criminal record, or someone without one?  I'm asking in the real world here, as a general point.

Which you have chosen to read as my believing that "anyone with a convition is going to rob your customers at the first oppotunity".

Vin


dazmond

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Re: Convicts
« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2010, 09:22:50 pm »
i think most of us window cleaners have some form of criminal convictions for various things over the years thats why we become window cleaners!! ;D ;D




dazmond
price higher/work harder!

Re: Convicts
« Reply #64 on: December 16, 2010, 09:33:58 pm »
i think most of us window cleaners have some form of criminal convictions for various things over the years thats why we become window cleaners!! ;D ;D




dazmond
You might have a point there.

mikecam

Re: Convicts
« Reply #65 on: December 16, 2010, 10:00:42 pm »
I've had 'background' searches done on myself and employees in the past when tendering for high profile contracts. If you don't employ anyone with a criminal record then you don't stand the risk of losing contracts. And yes,i have employed convicted people.

That'll be security work or something then? It certainley wasn't for window cleaning because you can't just check anyones background as said earlier.

luther1

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Re: Convicts
« Reply #66 on: December 16, 2010, 10:08:01 pm »
Businesses have the facility to check all potential employers/contractors. Europeanbackground.co.uk. is one such company that do this.

Re: Convicts
« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2010, 10:10:45 pm »

but don't someone deserve a second chance.  



never employ a junky there not worth it.

so I'm proof it works so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, OK Ive never stole but i did use violence drugs etc, 

 ??? ??? ???

Well this little lot makes about as much sense as nought. First you say some deserve a second chance, but that excludes those who have some sort of a drug habit. Then you say you had drug dealings but it was okay for you to have a second chance.


mikecam

Re: Convicts
« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2010, 10:37:56 pm »
Businesses have the facility to check all potential employers/contractors. Europeanbackground.co.uk. is one such company that do this.

LOL!!! Background checks like it says. It can't disclose anyones criminal record if spent, it tells you that on the site. Also, unless the employment is one that legally requires a CRB they can't get that either.

luther1

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Re: Convicts
« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2010, 10:55:25 pm »
Businesses have the facility to check all potential employers/contractors. Europeanbackground.co.uk. is one such company that do this.

LOL!!! Background checks like it says. It can't disclose anyones criminal record if spent, it tells you that on the site. Also, unless the employment is one that legally requires a CRB they can't get that either.

LOL!!! That was an example. Even if someones criminal record is 'spent' then there is a rehabilitation period where they can still be checked. Custodial sentences of more than 2 1/2 years NEVER become spent. If you've done 6 months then your record is valid for 5 years. 6 months or less and its valid for 3 1/2 years.

Rob_Mac

Re: Convicts
« Reply #70 on: December 17, 2010, 05:24:09 am »
Here's a situation!!!

When I had just gone in the army we had a young lad (year younger than me - 16) who lived at the bottom of our street

He went to the pub one night, closing time he is walking home and is goaded and threatened by three lads. I think how it came out was that it got heavy and he retaliated by hitting one of these lads in the stomach and as he came forward again.

This knocked the lad backwards and he cracked the back of his skull on the edge of the pavement kerb.

It killed him!!!

He got a life sentence!!!!

He was a good lad (quiet, kept himself to himself) He just reacted and defended himself.

Ended up in Long Lartin (spelling??) I don't get home and my parents moved away from his house so I don't know what happened to him.

Try and explain that to a potential employer. I would employ him tomorrow - no problem at all.

Judge someone on the strength of their character and the person they are - not on what they were

Everyone deserves a second chance.

Rob ;D

Londoner

Re: Convicts
« Reply #71 on: December 17, 2010, 07:33:32 am »
Mr Mc Kay   "What are you in for this time Fletcher?"

Fletcher      "Getting caught"

Poles R Us

Re: Convicts
« Reply #72 on: December 17, 2010, 09:50:19 am »
i would never take on a criminal

s.w.c

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Re: Convicts
« Reply #73 on: December 17, 2010, 10:05:33 am »
I've had 'background' searches done on myself and employees in the past when tendering for high profile contracts. If you don't employ anyone with a criminal record then you don't stand the risk of losing contracts. And yes,i have employed convicted people.

That'll be security work or something then? It certainley wasn't for window cleaning because you can't just check anyones background as said earlier.




i hold a current sia badge i keep it for special events i retired of the door three years ago. but on my criminal record the is violence possession of class a and a fire arms caution, also possession of cs, and some are repeated a few times, but its all spent been clear for ten years,

mikecam

Re: Convicts
« Reply #74 on: December 17, 2010, 10:56:17 am »
I've had 'background' searches done on myself and employees in the past when tendering for high profile contracts. If you don't employ anyone with a criminal record then you don't stand the risk of losing contracts. And yes,i have employed convicted people.

That'll be security work or something then? It certainley wasn't for window cleaning because you can't just check anyones background as said earlier.





i hold a current sia badge i keep it for special events i retired of the door three years ago. but on my criminal record the is violence possession of class a and a fire arms caution, also possession of cs, and some are repeated a few times, but its all spent been clear for ten years,


Hey, don't shoot me i'm only the messenger !!!!

s.w.c

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Re: Convicts
« Reply #75 on: December 17, 2010, 01:01:34 pm »
it was only a caution since they know one was used but couldn't find it to prove it. stupid plod they never look hard enough only had to lift a couple of patio slabs up but as i said the stupid. ;D