[stephen s]

I have to disagree over first clean with WFP isn't the best,  thats a lame excuse,   if done correctly there is absolutely no reason why a job shouldn't look spot on after first clean with WFP.

to many people hide behind this 3 cleans until they are right nonsense,   if you took you car to be valeted and was told that you wouldn't pay for the poor service would you ?    well same applies to cleaning windows with WFP.

Ive never said that to a customer and never will,  done 3 new cleans yesterday all in bad state and ok it took me twice as long as it usually would I made sure they were gleaming with 2 of the customers telling me how pleased they were.

future cleans will take half the time so putting all the effort into first clean means there is no excuse.

[cybersye]

If it really takes 3 cleans with wfp to get em good then clean clean them 3 times on the first clean  is this why some people think its acceptable to charge double price for a first clean ? 

as for a boring video, show me a wc / gutter cleaning video that is'nt boring 
oh and btw I thought gutter cleaning meant getting all the crap out the gutter

[stephen s]

If it really takes 3 cleans with wfp to get em good then clean clean them 3 times on the first clean  is this why some people think its acceptable to charge double price for a first clean ? 

as for a boring video, show me a wc / gutter cleaning video that is'nt boring 
oh and btw I thought gutter cleaning meant getting all the crap out the gutter

true true and almost true mate,    1st 2 statements were spot on,  last statement well its really gutter emptying when you take all the debris out of the gutter  but you clean the outsides of the gutter.

But still you make good valid points alas Mr I clean 30 - 40 houses a day cos I'm great and I do 1st cleans in same time as normal cleans just wouldn't listen because he's driven by money and not providing a good service.

[mistersqueegee]

What Micah was demonstrating was gutter whitening as opposed to gutter cleaning. At least that's how we differentiate them over here.

[stephen s]

aaaah  is that what he was doing ?  cos I thought he was knitting fog 


just joking our kid we knew what he was demonstrating

[mistersqueegee]

aaaah  is that what he was doing ?  cos I thought he was knitting fog 


just joking our kid we knew what he was demonstrating

I knew you knew, but, did you know that I knew you knew, when you knew it?

[stephen s]

if you knew what I knew about whats new then you would know its a no to what I know 

[mistersqueegee]

I thought I knew but ... wait are we joking in present, past, or future tense? I didn't do to well in English since American is my first language.

[jonnyald]

i dont know why it is , but it DOES take 3 cleans before PVC  frames or guttering look their very best  .im thinking that after the first clean some of the cleaning gook is left on the surface  and maybe it soaks in to whatever crud is still there . or maybe its because each clean is undertaken from a slightly different angle 

[stephen s]

maybe its because you have rushed it and haven't spent enough time cleaning it ?

[jonnyald]

no thats not the case . im not talking about wfp ,just trad cleaning   using Cif cleaner  on pvc that hasnt been cleaned in years  -i guess its more RESTORATION  of the surface more than cleaning

[stephen s]

I stand to be corrected Johnny.   yes your right with pvc that has gone off colour,     however although Ive never yet done such a clean I do believe there is a product which just escapes me at the moment which will bring them back to life in just one application.

I sure someone on here will know what it is

[wizard]

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