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chrisyg

Re: UNBELIEVABLE, WHAT A COWBOY.
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2009, 05:37:01 pm »
Quote from: Matt @ Oakley Windows on January 10, 2009, 05:34:19 pm
If you havent got public liability insurance what happens if your ladder is blown over in the wind and damages someones property, maybe on a car, or causes someone personal injury?

If I was a victim of that I'd wanted financial recompense, wouldnt most people? It strikes me as irresponsible not to. We have a moral duty to allow fo rmost eventualities surely?

then you take the window cleaner to court.

moral or not its not required by law, so its up to the individual.
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Oakley Windows

Re: UNBELIEVABLE, WHAT A COWBOY.
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2009, 05:39:34 pm »
Exactly, which is why you need P/L Insurance.

(If the window cleaner is taken to court and has no assets as recompense whats the use in taking him to court, sending him to prison for 3 years doesnt repair the conservatory roof, the OAP's skull)
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chrisyg

Re: UNBELIEVABLE, WHAT A COWBOY.
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2009, 05:45:00 pm »
Quote from: Matt @ Oakley Windows on January 10, 2009, 05:39:34 pm
Exactly, which is why you need P/L Insurance.

(If the window cleaner is taken to court and has no assets as recompense whats the use in taking him to court, sending him to prison for 3 years doesnt repair the conservatory roof, the OAP's skull)

yes you do have a VERY valid point of course it should be made a legal requirement just like it is in Scotland.

But its not for everywhere else...

So its up to the customer, to ensure their window cleaner is insured. Besides legally if a WC dropped his ladder on a OAP's head, that OAP's family can claim off the persons home public liability insurance who is using the window cleaner if he was working on their property at the time, as they are liable too!

Although if were talking in the middle of the street, then you cant.
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Chris Cottrell

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Re: UNBELIEVABLE, WHAT A COWBOY.
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2009, 06:00:22 pm »
Quote from: Andy @ Southern Cleaning Services on January 10, 2009, 03:06:37 pm
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Its always the same old story, I have been to quote a large barn conversion this morning & it was a big un too they said over the last 20 yrs they have had 3/4 window cleaners none that lasted more than 5yrs all dissapeared without so much as a goodbye I priced it at £50 which they were surprised at then told me the last 2 guys charge £12 & £16 , this place is going to take me a couple of hrs or so to do on my own

Chris,

Did they agree to £50?

If they did be careful they don't just use you as a one-off!

Andy

Andy they did accept
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foxy

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Re: UNBELIEVABLE, WHAT A COWBOY.
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2009, 06:20:11 pm »
some people are shy about asking for much money for a job. they are used to scraping by and dare not put a big price in. some window cleaners do not see the job as a way to make a good living, but as a way to get by. i know a very good window cleaner who just gets through the week; he is a fast good cleaner but has no aspiration to set the world on fire.
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traditional cleaner, shop windows and some pubs.

foxy

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Re: UNBELIEVABLE, WHAT A COWBOY.
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2009, 06:22:29 pm »
the way this recession is starting to hit there will be thousands of hard working people with no job or any prospect of getting one 'dossing'. we cant be too smug, clean windows is not a necessity like food or warmth. the recession will hit all of us too.
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traditional cleaner, shop windows and some pubs.

kenaltobelli

Re: UNBELIEVABLE, WHAT A COWBOY.
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2009, 07:24:49 pm »
i have plenty of jobs too low priced taken on when i first started but now i cant be arsed or
dont want the hasel of putting the price up .
its a thing left over from being a milk man milk goes up penny a pint they have 4 pints a week
instead of 7 or cut to 1 a day used to be 2 so if you look at some of my prices i must be a
cowboy now i just try for a bit more with new work
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suds window service

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Re: UNBELIEVABLE, WHAT A COWBOY.
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2009, 09:21:32 pm »
at the moment i have prices from 2 quid shop front to 38 quid com..in short a broad range of pricing .
The key is the proximity of jobs and the time it takes to complete. 20 quid houses are good but not when you have to drive 10 miles to the next one.
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karygate

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Re: UNBELIEVABLE, WHAT A COWBOY.
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2009, 10:04:20 am »
i would drive ten miles between every 20 pound house if my books were not full. money is money ,and my books are not full .
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trike

Re: UNBELIEVABLE, WHAT A COWBOY.
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2009, 11:09:52 am »
Quote from: trike on January 11, 2009, 10:58:01 am
a window cleaner by mine had died,been doing round for 30years,4bed all leaded,because he used to charge 4.50 they wont pay more then that,all 3k houses there is about 70,two years down i have started doing them charged double the first time,but its still 315 for 70 houses which i do in two and a half days,it may be cheap but the answer to your question,yes you can earn a good living at these prices,just have to work harder thats all,most of my work 5 quid only because they wont pay more but last xmas i had two days each week,now i have 6days work each week,and im thinking of buying some soon,and so far i havent been undercut,i started up again after rta,just because people are cheap doesnt mean there dossers,ive been window cleaning for 20years now,make a good living,wish you all the best any way,and welcome to the world of a window cleaner ;D im insured public liability,and liability,but yes there are a few cowboys out there,if people can get there houses cleaned for 4 quid they will
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pingu

Re: UNBELIEVABLE, WHAT A COWBOY. New
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2009, 04:00:47 pm »
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trike

Re: UNBELIEVABLE, WHAT A COWBOY.
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2009, 05:34:43 pm »
your link not working
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ftp

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Re: UNBELIEVABLE, WHAT A COWBOY.
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2009, 05:51:07 pm »
Take away the http :// bit.
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