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nevil

  • Posts: 478
Re: drying times
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2007, 06:57:12 pm »
I say from 4 hours but stres that them ceating the optimum enviroment for drying is the biggest single factor.

In other words bat it right back in their court.

ca8gro

  • Posts: 14
Re: drying times
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2007, 12:46:45 pm »
That's the power of the dry my man :P

Did a white carpet yesterday, 23 stairs, hall, and 1 bedroom.

Looked great, was very pleased, and dry before I even walked out the door.

Regards

Martin 8)


Hi Martin,

What system are you using? I'm looking for a new career and just trying to get to grips with what options there are with their advantages?

Cheers

Ken Wainwright

  • Posts: 2107
Re: drying times
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2007, 12:51:41 pm »
Hi Ca8gro

Regardless of system, chemicals or equipment used, the biggest influence on cleaning and drying performance is the technician. It is well accepted within our industry that the most powerful truckmounted equipment will be potentially lethal to carpets in the wrong hands.

Training should come first then, after assessing where your focus will be within the marketplace, the choice of most suitable equipment. eg if you pitch yourself at high rise office blocks and high security buildings, you will be using different types of equipment to that used for night clubs for example.

Learn about our industry, see if you can persuade a trusted local company to allow you to accompany them for a day or two. Raise questions on Cleanitup (as you have just done) then get some training.  The NCCA is a good, effective place to start.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

liahona

Re: drying times
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2007, 12:52:20 pm »
Good luck finding that one out.  We have been waiting for pictures of the system and what it is for months if not years.

Best, Dave.

Fred Gullan

  • Posts: 88
Re: drying times
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2007, 04:14:17 pm »
I find that using a wand with an enclosed spray significantly helps matters . No mist or steam enters the room so the humidity of the surrounding air is not increased maximising its potential to absorb moisture from the carpet. Using a truckmount has the advantage of sucking moist air from the building to the outside. A porty stationed at the front door would also do this of course, just to be fair, although not with the same airflow . ;)

regards

Fred

*paul_moss

  • Posts: 2961
Re: drying times
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2007, 07:43:09 pm »
 ;D
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
REMOVED FOR POSTING OFFENSIVE MATERIAL

The Great One

  • Posts: 12722
Re: drying times
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2007, 07:54:43 pm »
That's the power of the dry my man :P

Did a white carpet yesterday, 23 stairs, hall, and 1 bedroom.

Looked great, was very pleased, and dry before I even walked out the door.

Regards

Martin 8)


Hi Martin,

What system are you using? I'm looking for a new career and just trying to get to grips with what options there are with their advantages?

Cheers

Hi

I use the EnviroDri system www.envirodri.com

I have been using it now, solely for 4 years and I have come across one carpet so trahed I couldn't clean it.

It has never broken down and I have only needed to service it once

Call Lorna on 08707 337733, tell her Martin From DryTech in Brighton sent you, they have a 10% sale at the moment.

Regards

Martin 8)

*paul_moss

  • Posts: 2961
Re: drying times
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2007, 08:05:33 pm »
Martin
You really need to try HWE mate.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
REMOVED FOR POSTING OFFENSIVE MATERIAL

JS2

  • Posts: 264
Re: drying times
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2007, 08:38:08 pm »
Hi

I don't think Martin will ever migrate from Dry to HWE, so it's no use trying to persuade him.  But perhaps someone can persuade me to go Dry only - please ?????

Regards

Pete (JS2)

*paul_moss

  • Posts: 2961
Re: drying times
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2007, 08:48:35 pm »
Did a dry clean today using Envirodry, only because customer insisted even after trying to talk her into hwe.Carpet looked great when finished but I then misted  Solution no.3 over the top of a high traffic area and wipped with a towel and got a dirty transfer  ::) ::).
For best cleaning always HWE ::).
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
REMOVED FOR POSTING OFFENSIVE MATERIAL

JS2

  • Posts: 264
Re: drying times
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2007, 09:31:17 pm »
Paul

Yes, I know that HWE will always do the deepest clean, as I've done lower moisture (quick dry) work and been able to lift off extra dirt afterwards.  However I've extracted more grime even after an apparent 'thorough' HWE as well.  To keep on-track with the spirit of the original post I am looking seriously at the Challenger OP, but wonder if the shorter anticipated drying time may be combated by an inreased risk of abrasive damage or a much poorer result compared with HWE ?

Regards

Pete (JS2)

Ian Gourlay

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Re: drying times
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2007, 10:07:01 pm »
I remember years agoMartins system was top secret.

But he has been using it for years and getting paid so if he is happy so should we be.

Its  like those who swear by a cleaning solution if they are happy fine.

As long as they do not trash my method to customers

The Great One

  • Posts: 12722
Re: drying times
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2007, 11:25:50 am »
Hail all that is dry

Praise be to the compound who method is upon high ('n dry)

Oh great dry cleaning, bless those who art wet.

Lead them into the light ('n dry)

Let them not stay in the wet, oh great spirit of "dry in 20 minutes"

Do not foresake the realm of split, smelly wick backed carpet.

Help them oh great dry one, for you alone have the power.

Oh great dry one, allow them to see thine  perfumed greatness... ;)

Regards

Martin 8)

Dennis

  • Posts: 2044
Re: drying times
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2007, 01:39:30 pm »
Must give off a lot of dodgy fumes though Martin!  ;) ;D

Alan Brooker. Aqualink Carpet Care

  • Posts: 489
Re: drying times
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2007, 11:28:35 pm »
Anyone on here use proper dehu's iro £1000 mark with hwe. I was chatting with Chris Netherton recently (entire C.H system for 21 storey office block blew and went through 3 floors) and he says he uses this method. frequently - places dehu in room even before cleaning to dry air out and make it super absorbent.

Alan
Experience does not qualify as Knowledge and Understanding.
Understand how and why and you'll produce great results.

IICRC, Woolsafe, Fenice & LTT trained.
Member of Eco Carpet Care, NCCA & Woolsafe.

John Kelly

  • Posts: 4461
Re: drying times
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2007, 12:04:09 am »
A decent dehum will dry the carpet faster. Problem is if you set it up when you arrive at the job it will take about an hour or more to lower the relative humidity of the room before it has any additional affect. You then have to return to pick it up.
I think people get too hung up on drying times. As long as the carpet isn't soaking and dries in a resonable time then most customers accept that and are happy.

Jeff Lydon/Greenie

  • Posts: 61
Re: drying times
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2007, 05:50:11 pm »
I started out a HOST guy, then discovered other low moisture methods, spent some time cleaning with an oscillating pad machine exclusively, did some encap work as well, rotary bonnet, and a few others, then discovered HWE....the rest is history.

If you stay in this line of work long enough, eventually you will come to the same conclusion all the others do, water is good and hot water is better, nothing replaces rinsing with 100 gals. And with todays technology you don't even have the "negative" side of wet cleaning to contend with, many HWE guys have discoverd 1-2 hour dry times, and I mean really dry, not walk in socks perceived dry.  It a new generation of Clean, we can only look forward not back from here on out.


gwrightson

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Re: drying times
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2007, 06:04:24 pm »
Jeff, out of interest ,

What machine did you use for encap ?

80% of my low profile commercial work is all encap  , love the system , easy to use and great results on low profile .

geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

Jeff Lydon/Greenie

  • Posts: 61
Re: drying times
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2007, 02:24:40 am »
I used a counter rotating brush machine, an oscillating pad machine with VCT fiber pads, and a Cimex with the same, oh and a "system" that isn't truely encapsulating, but acts very similar it's super low moisture rotary bonnet (300rpm) that uses Xerion solution, it was the fastest by far, but more of a quick bonnet dry cleaning than a wet shampoo encap clean.