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Terry_Burrows

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Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2007, 06:37:43 pm »
its spending loads on marketing surely gets its :-\ we have spent and done quite a bit with small results,so does this so called fast track work any other way :-\ and is it worth going on :-\
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craigp

Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2007, 07:51:55 pm »
Dont knock him regardless of the car.  He left a £35k job to start a business to make more.

How many of your made £35k last year?

Mark

yes thanks Mark.

Matt Lindus

Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2007, 11:59:59 pm »

Total waste of time and money. I would rather cut a finger off than sit through some course listening to some wallet leach lecture you on how to run a business and become a multi millionaire in 3 days.
What you get,,
Some idiot who drives an A Reg Volvo 340 lecturing you how to earn mega bucks Yada Yada Yada, 3 ham sandwiches and a cup of tea, and no doubt some shockingly naff story such as "The Door"!!. (that's if you've not fallen asleep at that point)
Honestly, you would be better of buying an air guitar than going on this waste of time and space.

Take Joe Polish, how much has he robbed from people!!! I could stand in front of you all and tell you to go out and "Make it happen guys" "Your the best" "Come on lets all clap together class,, YAAAHHHOOO!!!" "Reach for the moon guys,, yeee haaa!!"

Two words to motivational speakers ..........

Not wishing to be negative of course.

Matt   

Len Gribble

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Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2007, 02:50:09 am »
Good luck to him it took me 4 years to rebuild my dream car. :-[

Len
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

craigp

Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2007, 08:57:13 am »
Matt,

there is real value in his systems hes not a motivational speaker which is what you describe, there to many people using his material with success for it to be dismissed.

i do think as do lots of others that there may come a time it will work less well because of dilution and to many people using it un diluted also, because your not different from the compitetion if there all doing it, and thats the main idea to set your self way apart from everybody else.

6 or 7 have done FT in my area :o

Craig

Ian Gourlay

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Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2007, 12:31:02 pm »
The Theory is 9 out of ten carpet cleaners do not do it.

This problem with Forums like this is they helps to stimulate and Motovate People
on a daily basis.

Mike Halliday

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Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2007, 12:46:10 pm »
actually I think its disgusting how you all equate material wealth & possessions with success.

according to the Dela Lama 'only by casting off the binding of material pleasure can we find true enlightenment'

plus don't forget

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven,"

or take note of the worlds greatest philosother, Bob Marley;

Here's a little song i wrote,
you might want to sing it note for note,
don't worry, be happy

Mike :D :D
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

D woods

Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2007, 01:58:05 pm »
Lack of money is the root of all evil

jasonl

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Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2007, 06:58:55 pm »
actually I think its disgusting how you all equate material wealth & possessions with success.

according to the Dela Lama 'only by casting off the binding of material pleasure can we find true enlightenment'

plus don't forget

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven,"

or take note of the worlds greatest philosother, Bob Marley;

Here's a little song i wrote,
you might want to sing it note for note,
don't worry, be happy

Mike :D :D


Up on furthur study though , we know that the eye of a needle was a gated entrance to a  walled city , which was *difficult * though  not impossible for a camel loaded with goods to pass through.
So , it is possible , i think the story is trying to say, though difficult.
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

Mike Roper

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Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2007, 10:51:19 pm »
I think you will find that Jesus was using ' hyperbole' here . In other words gross exageration to get over the point he was trying to make. It is impossible for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God if he puts material things before God. It is the LOVE of money not money that is the root of all sorts of injurious things.

craigp

Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2007, 09:53:12 am »
it must have ran up into hundreds that have done FT by now, i wonder what proportion made a succuss of it, Alltec must have turnover before and after stats.

I wonder if i was interested in joining, would they tell me these stats while making an enquiry to them?

or would it go off into a sales pitch? or a push into going to a seminar?

PaulKing

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Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2007, 12:58:23 pm »
"THEY DON"T PUT POCKETS IN SHROUDS"

A lack of money is a pain in the arse, but sometimes you can have to much, guess it just working out what fits for you.
www.revitaclean.com  established 1968 in Newcastle Upon Tyne

Dave_Lee

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Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2007, 01:10:48 pm »
Terry Burrows,
I believe you know Colin Bright (Ex window cleaner) of Brights Cleaning at Blackpool, look up his profile and send a personal message, ask him what he thinks about the Fast Track and would he be the owner of a hugely successful high priced business, without having done it.
Dave.
Dave Lee, Owner of Deepclean Services
Chorley Lancs. Est 1980.
"Pay Cheap -You get Cheap - Pay a little more and get something Better."

KarlJones

  • Posts: 394
Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2007, 01:21:07 pm »
I will say that it must have been a tad easier for someone on 35k a year with tons of sales experience and the fact that sales background was in cars to reach this goal.

I mean, if anyone can sell you would expect it to be this guy, and if anyone can find a cheap deal on a car you would expect it to be this guy.

It would be a lot nicer if they showed "I was on nuffin, on the dole for 10 years, but I got a nice new ferarri in 6 months".  It is not saying that though.

Car sales man on 35k buys an old porsche.
Big deal!
You cannot plough a field by turning it over in your mind.

Doug Holloway

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Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2007, 01:33:05 pm »
Hi Guys,

Dave Lee's comment is valid, I met Colin at Carpex , he is much less experienced than me and lives in a poorer part of the country , yet he gets better prices than me, Why, because he asks for them !!

Colin could talk the hind legs off a donkey which i suppose helps but I believe what FT did for Colin was give him the confidence to ask for better prices.

Cheers

Doug

ianharper

Re: 0-Porsche in six months
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2007, 04:03:11 pm »
guys

joe polish, fast track, are all "direct responce marketting" systems

the differance is like putting a advert in a directory like yellow pages to dropping a leaflet.

the first one you are waitting for the customer to come to you the second you are offering your service linked to some kind of offer.

why direct responce works is that you are in control, and its this control that some are better at than others. thats why it works for some and not for others.

in my view fast track is over priced for it delivers.

you can get better direct responce for others in differant services etc. and the good thing about this aproach is that every other carpet cleaner is not using it. so the ideas are new.

my history with joe was that i had a maid service business and when to a boot camp in the usa and used these "carpet cleaning" marketting ideas to build my maid service. so you see you can take direct responce ideas from other areas and services and use them within carpet cleaning.

one very inportant part of direct responce is following the numbers of each advert, this way you know what works and what does not. saving you wasting your money. proff of return on your investment is a must.

the judge of anything in business is in the profit you make and what your prospects and customers think about it.

Respect

Ian Harper