[Smurf]

What I'm worried about is the recommended flow rate, was told 20 - 40 litres a minute.....250 litres isn't going to last long at that flow rate so how do you make 250 litres last all day.
The trolley with 2 containers on is a piece of p to wheel about.
Most of my work is very compact so changing barrels straight from the van will not be a problem time to go soon and find out what I have let myself in for.
Dazmond...the pole is very light or seems it to me.

Regards to flow rate and water usage I soon found out there was a major drawback when using a pf trolley & containers for wfp work opposed to a van mount. The slower the flow rate was set at the on the trolley the longer it took to do the job especially on first cleans so more pure was actually used when trying to washing & rinse properly. 

If you don't have some sort of tap to turn the water on/off at the pole end whilst working with the trolley then I would strongly suggest you get something like a univalve to fit inside the pole or maybe wait and see what gardiner pole systems new offering is like before you decide what to get.

That way will save you having to turn the pump controller on/off each time especially if running a long length of extra hose to save moving the trolley about so much and having to walk back to it each time. Also you will gain total control when you want to turn the water on/off whilst working which in effect will save you wasting more pure water per window etc when set a higher flow rate.

As mentioned already set up a decent static system with say a 1000 litre chepo ibc holding tank so you can produce pure whilst your out working/over night. Then all you do is transefer the pure water into containers when required or even better idea is  to transfer the pure directly into a van tank and use the trolley static in a van instead.

[Shrek]

Smurf - what flow rate did you generally use on a day to day basis on your PF trolley? I started with it on about 15 and it took forever to clean everything , then slowly been putting it up so I'm on 35 now .. How high can you actually put the flow rate and work efficiently ? I bet 99 is pointless but I may be wrong

[SeanK]

Says in instructions flow rate adjustable from 0 - 99 with 20 - 40 being the typical setting?

That's just your pump control and doesn't measure the flow, if you want to check how much your pumping a minute then
time yourself filling a one or two litre empty milk container.

[SeanK]

Smurf - what flow rate did you generally use on a day to day basis on your PF trolley? I started with it on about 15 and it took forever to clean everything , then slowly been putting it up so I'm on 35 now .. How high can you actually put the flow rate and work efficiently ? I bet 99 is pointless but I may be wrong

Its all about confidence Shrek, some people like a high flow as it gives them the confidence to clean quicker, others can work
with a slower flow and be just as quick.
I can use both a high and low flow and still be slow as I over scrub.

[TomSE]

I used to have my pf trolley set to around 30. I now use it at 55 and it seems much better in my opinion. An average semi would usually see me use just under one barrel.

[Smurf]

Smurf - what flow rate did you generally use on a day to day basis on your PF trolley? I started with it on about 15 and it took forever to clean everything , then slowly been putting it up so I'm on 35 now .. How high can you actually put the flow rate and work efficiently ? I bet 99 is pointless but I may be wrong

Depends what I'm cleaning really but just on regular 2 storey window cleans the flow rate is set to about 45 on the digi controller. I also prefer to use hot pure water too all year round that's with or without a chem boost.

Sorry I miss read you post as I use to use the pf trolley when I first started out set to 15- 20 and found that painfully slow.
Believe it or not some with van mounts prefer to use a wfp pump at full bore all the time but each to their own I guess.  The only time I may use the pump running at full bore is when rinsing down the likes of glass conservatory roofs.
 

[Shrek]

Is there a difference between one digi controller and another? as in , is the PF trolley digi controller different to any other ?

[nathankaye]

It all depends on the sizes of houses your going to be cleaning , id be lucky if iv any left at dinner time 350ltrs, but majority of my custys are detached with connys so I don't get through as many in a day as some others . But as long as you've got a water butt at home for storage you can nip home have dinner fill up and back out again . I have my flow rate on 35

I have a 500ltr tank in van and my flow rate is 35. My system was a diy from pure freedon. When i first started i haf flow rate on 20, i was very cautious (? Spelling not strong point) didnt know how much water i would use even though had a valve tap on hose to conserve water. This is because at first didnt have garden space for a static tank in garden (only small garden n wife said no! Lol) so had to produce pure every night to top up van. 
Now after sweet talking mrs,  i have a static tank and i dont worry how much water i use anymore.
My rounds are compact and semidetach 3 or 4 bed houses. A mix of conservatorys as well. I would say, use between 200 -300 ltr a day. As my work is 4 wkly, even on 40 flow rate i use less water than when i ran flow rate of 20, as more water means better and quicker rinse. This is my experience anyways.
Yes there is a difference of flow rate depending which controller you have.

[Shrek]

Maybe I rinse to much then as I could never get by on 200ltrs a day 

[Smurf]

Is there a difference between one digi controller and another? as in , is the PF trolley digi controller different to any other ?

Most controllers like pf and others sell you will find are maufactured by spring and are just branded with the suppliers name.
https://www.facebook.com/Spring-Europe-Ltd-362383547123067/

[Shrek]

Is there a difference between one digi controller and another? as in , is the PF trolley digi controller different to any other ?

Most controllers like pf and others sell you will find are maufactured by spring and are just branded with the suppliers name.
https://www.facebook.com/Spring-Europe-Ltd-362383547123067/

Ah ha! cheers smurf

[Smurf]

There is a wide range of pump controllers that they make and spring are constantly evolving wfp products to match suppliers requirements.

[JandS]

Well used it on 5 this morning and although a tad slow it did the job......50 litres lasted about 90 minutes all told so might turn it up to quicken the rinse.....took me that long to do 2 houses I normally do in around 50 mins trad......I was very cautious.

[nathankaye]

Well used it on 5 this morning and although a tad slow it did the job......50 litres lasted about 90 minutes all told so might turn it up to quicken the rinse.....took me that long to do 2 houses I normally do in around 50 mins trad......I was very cautious.

When i first went onto wfp, my smallest round is just one street. By trad it took me a day. It was the smallest round to test wfp on. I was cautious and made sure all frames were done really well. It took me 2 days, and i felt like a complete novice again (tho been in game 14yrs). A painful learning curve as it was like that on most of my rounds. But by time they had all 2nd cleans, my confidence was building but still re learning the windows (leaking seals, drips from top openers etc etc). By 4th clean it felt like this isnt really work anymore, 

[JandS]

Well got it cracked but like Nathan said took twice as long as normal......most of the custies today were oldies so a good section of the community to try it on as they are usually very wary of change.
They were delighted with the results as was I...especially with the frames being cleaned.
Turned it up to 15 and found it quicker....I do have a univalve fitted so can turn on and off.
One customer was going out as I started and he asked me if "that thing" can clean solar panels ...yes I said so we agreed on a price and off he went.....glad he did when I realised how fast one can do 10 solar panels.

[Tosh]

Indeed SB...it does.

Its therefore water running down between the openers frame and the main frame of the whole window bringing dirt with it.

[Tosh]

Says in instructions flow rate adjustable from 0 - 99 with 20 - 40 being the typical setting?

Turn it up to 100 and you'll work a lot faster.

[Smurf]

Says in instructions flow rate adjustable from 0 - 99 with 20 - 40 being the typical setting?

Turn it up to 100 and you'll work a lot faster.

On a digi controller it don't go upto 100 only 99.
 When you say you will work a lot faster is that because if you don't you will run out of water