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edward1

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Re: 0 hour contract
« Reply #60 on: May 18, 2014, 12:21:09 pm »
the reality of a 0 hre contract is that you give the guy work as long as you have the work to give and as long as the work is done as it should and so on .
it gives flexibility to both sides .

why should an employer be tied to guaranteeing someone a job.if the employee is right and does the job as he should he has no  problems.and the employer has no problems.

I have been messed about by employees many times and before you know it yopu are working for them .

I cant guarantee work ,if the work isn't there ,so a 0 hr seems to support this.

Soupy

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Re: 0 hour contract
« Reply #61 on: May 18, 2014, 12:44:25 pm »
Herein lies the problem with zero hour contracts. It can be written by the employer to seem fair, no obligation from either party. As Tish pointed out, by definition that is how they are written.

In reality they can be used by an employer: you work for me when I say or no more work for you sonny bob.

For window cleaning it is ideal. Weather issues can mean long periods of no work, cutting out the wage bill is a massive overhead gone. I have no problem with zero hour contracts, most employers are fair. Some however are not.
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Soupy

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Re: 0 hour contract
« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2014, 12:47:40 pm »
So edward1, if an employee of yours is a no show on Monday morning 'cause he couldn't be arsed getting out his bed, what do you do? He has no obligation to work.
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Soupy

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Re: 0 hour contract
« Reply #63 on: May 18, 2014, 12:51:59 pm »
Or you have a rush job on, needs to be done asap but your employee refuses 'cause he is working somewhere else?
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Soupy

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Re: 0 hour contract
« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2014, 12:53:44 pm »
I'll tell you what I'd do. Nothing. It wouldn't happen. Zero hour contract or not he'd have an obligation to work.
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Tom White

Re: 0 hour contract
« Reply #65 on: May 18, 2014, 01:03:13 pm »
I'll tell you what I'd do. Nothing. It wouldn't happen. Zero hour contract or not he'd have an obligation to work.

Well, in the general sense of what a zero hour contract is, that wouldn't be a zero hour contract.  If your employee has an obligation, that wouldn't fit the general criteria which is:



If you employ on a 'zero hour' basis, can you post the pertinent wording from the contract you use?  I'd be interested to read it.  Maybe your contract is something other than a zero hour contract and you're just getting confused?

Soupy

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Re: 0 hour contract
« Reply #66 on: May 18, 2014, 01:25:25 pm »
It wouldn't matter what it said.
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Tom White

Re: 0 hour contract
« Reply #67 on: May 18, 2014, 01:50:48 pm »
It wouldn't matter what it said.

I think that's probably the closest admission that you're wrong and don't know what you're talking about that we'll get. ;D

I do understand your sentiment though. 

Soupy

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Re: 0 hour contract
« Reply #68 on: May 18, 2014, 03:11:50 pm »
I remember being wrong once. 1996 it was.
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Tom White

Re: 0 hour contract
« Reply #69 on: May 18, 2014, 03:34:21 pm »
I remember being wrong once. 1996 it was.

Yes, I remember it well.  You said it would rain and it didn't. ;D

PoleKing

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Re: 0 hour contract
« Reply #70 on: May 18, 2014, 04:32:24 pm »
Bentley is just 1 but wearing aged 2+ clothes.
They're gonna be big lads. Certainly bigger than me.

Let's hope little Bentley grows into a huge strapping lad; it'll come in useful with a name like that.

Who the heck calls their kid Bentley?   ???

Bentley is an old English name that became more popular in Victorian times after dickens character Bentley Drummle in great expectations

Why do you need to be so judgmental and ignorant to a mans choice of name for his son....If you don't like it can you not keep your negative opinions to yourself
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Thanks for having my back Alfie.
No worries though, me & tosh frequently have these kind of discussions.
usually around alcohol or religion. or both.
The former he knew about, then gave it up 'cause he's a wuss. the latter he knows nothing about but google tells him all he needs to know.
He makes me smile though. Usually when he does.
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It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

windowswashed

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Re: 0 hour contract
« Reply #71 on: May 19, 2014, 07:26:24 pm »
Why would any employee commit to an employer on zero hour contract when anything better comes along? It's a no brainer :o