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JandS

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2012, 07:18:10 pm »
The Ninja's about 48kg.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

james roffey

Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2012, 07:22:21 pm »
This country went to the dogs a long time ago as far as manufacturing is concerned. Matt Flewitt put his money where his mouth is and came up with what I believe is an excellent designed range of carpet cleaning machines. He should be applauded and supported. He could have just as easily bought in a machine from the USA and re-badged it but no he did it the hard way. Hats off to him.

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AJB

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2012, 09:24:29 am »
On Ashbys website the one Enforcer model uses
7.2" vac motors.
i wonder if that was the machine used.
I don't know the internal plumbing of the Airflex,
but the vacuum figure on the first motor switched
on is suspiciously low. Could an internal hose be
incorrectly fitted  :o.
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Russ Chadd

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2012, 10:05:59 am »
Could it be possible that the Airflex is not a brand new machine? after time motors lose performance.
Im all in favour of an independent test being carried out on lets say five of the most talked about machines, at least this will give suppliers of such machines like the Airflex to supply a brand new machine for analysis. 

Robin Ray

Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2012, 12:38:15 pm »
Russ,

Totally agree with that. A full independent test would solve all issues for ever!

Not slating any machine as usability is allot more important than sheer power. One operator will like one, one will like another.

How many manufactures would sign up to a test though?

james roffey

Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2012, 03:25:42 pm »
Turns out that the Airflex used in this demo was a year old and was taken into the Dartford branch for a small repair, an overheating plug ! from what i understand they delayed getting the machine back it had a PAT test and cable replaced something that could easily be done at Dartford, it was in fact at the main branch being used to make this video without the owners knowledge. this is of course third party but if the owner wants to confirm or Ashbys deny then feel free.  :-[

I have some serious doubts about the validity of this demo its hardly been carried out on neutral ground has it,  Storm has the same motors and is more powerful than the Turbo i doubt the enforcer is the machine they are claiming. the specs in this "Ashbys" video are rather suspicious for the Airflex ???
Your never going to get all the machines in peak condition ie new all running alongside each other and have a scientific test carried out with an impartial adjudicator, i also don't think the suppliers want that either a fault on a machine could cost them dearly, i think the top flite machines are very similar and the thing that tips the balance for me after the spec is the ease of working on the machine, i'm a complete numpty when it comes to electrics and mechanical things but the Airflex is easy to work on because its accessible due to the flip interior workings, vacs can be changed in under ten minutes, the next thing i look for is reliability which has been excellent , then it's supplier relationship, Mat at Cleansmart goes out of his way he has never held it against me that i did not buy my machine from him direct even recognising the warranty and talking me out of changes to my set up at the expense of him making money.
Lastly it's the look of the machine, my  Airflex looks professional and promotes my company so for me the Airflex ticks all the boxes and the other machine from down south ticks many boxes too.

john martin

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2012, 10:24:18 pm »
On Ashbys website the one Enforcer model uses
7.2" vac motors.
i wonder if that was the machine used.
I don't know the internal plumbing of the Airflex,
but the vacuum figure on the first motor switched
on is suspiciously low. Could an internal hose be
incorrectly fitted  :o.

Even if its the 7.2 it still has around 100cfm ,  what Ashbys are 'demonstrating '
is the lift of series and the CFM of parallel at the same time .
Doesn't add up .

The Airflex should have around 270- 300 cfm  .... they say 330 on the website , but i'd say thats a little optimistic  , would be interesting to hear what  cleansmart make of the vid .

Steve_Knight

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2012, 07:59:52 am »
This country went to the dogs a long time ago as far as manufacturing is concerned. Matt Flewitt put his money where his mouth is and came up with what I believe is an excellent designed range of carpet cleaning machines. He should be applauded and supported. He could have just as easily bought in a machine from the USA and re-badged it but no he did it the hard way. Hats off to him.

Mark Mullane has also done the same at Textile Cleaning Solutions with his range of machines.