[Pristine Clean]

Its not the forum.

The people make the forum, this is just a room is which to hang out in. The forum has been running for so long now its getting the same old questions that have been asked time and time again.

I probably have repeated some of the questions myself. So I have not helped either.

Then you always get the PRICE WAR or WAGES WAR. How much he or they have earnt. Then the comments flow about "Oh I earnt twice as much" or thats nothing compared to.... Then you see them later driving in a reliant. I dont get it.

So just to add, there were days I earnt nothing and worked my backside to the bone.

I am not just a window cleaner, I ran a firm of cleaners. Office cleaning. No residential.

As for the cowboys I think we need them as they make us the "Professional shine". And just for the record, to be Professional does not mean you need to own an IONICS or similar. As long as your work is good, and customer service is great and you know how to conduct yourself professionally then you are professional.

If you have WFP as we do but have gone DIY I dont care, you might even do a better job than someone who has paid out £1000's.

So I hope we get some fresh blood soon as some of the top guys have left which is a shame.

Its not just the window cleaning section either, its everywhere, carpet cleaners, general cleaning. Its poor now. But I am sure it will pick up again.

Dave

[weetot]

I had a mini with a double 14ft ladder on top of it - without a roof rack!

Upload a picture of it.

[Tom White]

This forums been going down hill for a while and it ain`t just the members maybe the moderators could have something to do with it 

That's funny that is because I was talking to a moderator today and he thought the site was going down hill.

But people have been saying this site has been going downhill for about 7 years now!  It must've hit the bottom by now.  

I know there's members whose posts I like to read, and others whom I don't, but it's always been like that.  

Saying all that, there is a marked increase - or maybe just a glut - of negative posts whining about stuff.

[sherco]

I belong to another forum,  Tiling and on there they have different section that only certain people can access..They have a guest area, a pricing area and elite area. The guest area anybody can access, the pricing area only members can access and the elite area you can only access if you have over 500 posts or you have been advising people and other elite members then can decide if they think you can join that section. This system works very well and keeps the riff Raff out.

[A@R WINDOWCLEANING]

THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE WHO THINKS THEY KNOW BEST DOES MY HEAD IN !! I HAVE BEEN IN THE GAME 20 YRS I THINK I KNOW QUITE ALOT BUT ALWAYS STILL LEARNING NEW IDEAS AND LISTEN TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY SOME PEOPLE NEED TO  STOP DRIBBLING AND LEARN TO LISTEN     

[david watts]

you need to realize nothing is writen in stone in wc; what works in one place may not be
the dog s for others ie brushes i use one make others cant abide them.
i dont work in town others never move out of town.
but your allways learning in this game you have to up your game to make it
positve things happen to positve people[billy]

[Craig Trevain]

I think calling people crack head is going a little ott, yes its got worse but you just learn to only answer certain posts and leave the rest, this post is just as bad as the ones your refering too, as for prices it all comes down to areas I speak to a lad in Scotland on msn and what he charges for a £8 job id get for £20 thats just life....

Have just banned 3 thieving pot smoking chavs from my shop, to think guys like this are undercutting honest hard working wc's.

[Moderator David@stives]

From my point of view, the forum is ok at the moment. at one time we were getting about half a dozen report to mod emails per day, now we seem to get in a week what we used to get in a day.

Looks like we had a few people upset with the religeous posts on the non related section, but apart from that, no real aggro, we still have the odd people who try to wind people up, but they seem to be fighting a losing battle.

Anyway if you look down the list, you will see a lot of useful posts, better to read them than dwell on the odd negative post.

[Ian101]

worried if I should post now ?? still a newbie .. had a few rows on here ... possibly upset one or two older members ... 

[Mike_G]

worried if I should post now ?? still a newbie .. had a few rows on here ... possibly upset one or two older members ... 

Post away mate, dont worry about it

[mci services]

I belong to another forum,  Tiling and on there they have different section that only certain people can access..They have a guest area, a pricing area and elite area. The guest area anybody can access, the pricing area only members can access and the elite area you can only access if you have over 500 posts or you have been advising people and other elite members then can decide if they think you can join that section. This system works very well and keeps the riff Raff out.

i am a member of that forum also although i havent been on it in ages. it does work very well and you only get access to the members only section when you help others etc and it becomes obvious you are a professional

[Moderator David@stives]

Ian

you post what you like, it is very friendly on here, a few members like to be negative but thats there job.

Most of us are very happy with the positive stuff.

Dave

[Dave Willis]

Nope, definitely going downhill. 

[Darranvps]

I had a mini with a double 14ft ladder on top of it - without a roof rack!

Upload a picture of it.

I was too poor to own a camera back then

[gary999]

ive been a member since 2007 to be honest most of
the posts i have seen before, i dont think its any
better or worse than before.

well apart from a few that seem dissapeared from here or
post less ,who really knew what they were on about
(jeff brimble,matt ,jeff 1) and others who i havent got
time to mention, these people far as im concerned are
really missed on this forum but seem to have been
squeezed off