[dazmond]

lots of my work in one area takes me 2 weeks to clean!park up and clean a whole estate(takes me 5 days trad!)then across the road to another big estate(takes me another 5 days to clean!) then lots of clusters of jobs that take half a day/full day,quite a few big country houses(an hour here and there).commercial jobs and one or two stand alones that i could just use the backpack on.very compact granny flats.

i wont be humping the trolley in and out of the van all day thats for sure on my round!!

[G Griffin]

 Having no bucket and a spray bottle is no good for trad. Can you imagine in the middle of summer? I have tried it.
   Use a Fairy bottle/ pop bottle and fill it using outside taps if you`re not carrying a bucket.

[mci services]

i agree i wouldnt use a spray bottle i just put some of my bucket into my boab and hook it onto my trolley and you will find it last ages without a dip any way as the bottom windows are always soaking wet when you do them

[G Griffin]

i agree i wouldnt use a spray bottle i just put some of my bucket into my boab and hook it onto my trolley and you will find it last ages without a dip any way as the bottom windows are always soaking wet when you do them

  But he`s not using a bucket  : Your applicator will be drier than Ghandi`s sandals.

[dazmond]

sorry lads i meant an old fairy bottle full with gg3/water!!.tip some in b.o.b and mop and away i go!

i use spray bottle for the odd inside job!

[jonnyald]

iv been using a spray bottle for a few months now (trad) and its a winner all round . my bucket stays in the boot of my car and only if im back at my car do i put my applicator in it . i tried a few diffrent spray bottles before settling on one i bought in a hardware shop,it sprays a good amount each pull of the trigger and about a ten feet range so i can spray as i walk towards/climb towards a window. i removed the 1litre opaque spraybottle reservoir and replaced it with a clear plastic 300ml. water bottle because the original was too heavy/couldnt see clearly the level / for ladderwork . im sure there are even better spray bottles out there

[G Griffin]

 The difference is, you carry a bucket. Daz isn`t going to have one in his vehicle.
 
  I`ve liked using spray bottles but I find you need something to wet your applicator more, especially in summer. So if I left the bucket behind, I would use a small bottle of solution and sprayer. 
   
  Have you seen the Unger one? The bottle stays on your belt and you lift just the trigger and spray. The trigger is attached by some curly tubing.

[jonnyald]

The difference is, you carry a bucket. Daz isn`t going to have one in his vehicle.
 
  I`ve liked using spray bottles but I find you need something to wet your applicator more, especially in summer. So if I left the bucket behind, I would use a small bottle of solution and sprayer. 
   
  Have you seen the Unger one? The bottle stays on your belt and you lift just the trigger and spray. The trigger is attached by some curly tubing.

ive only seen photos of that unger sprayer ,it looks well made and i wonder what it sprays like. downside it looks as though it has a big bottle which would get dangerous up on the ladder. if it 1 litre thats a hefty weight if you carry it all day .
 im using a wagtail flipper as main squeegee with original yellow pad. this holds very little water but iv now got my spray bottle handy. the upside is the yellow pads light on the arm and thats whats important to me .
  [last week i reverted to a regular type applicator and unger zero squeegee just for 1 house and the weight of a fully laden applicator killed my arm in no time  ]

[G Griffin]

The difference is, you carry a bucket. Daz isn`t going to have one in his vehicle.
 
  I`ve liked using spray bottles but I find you need something to wet your applicator more, especially in summer. So if I left the bucket behind, I would use a small bottle of solution and sprayer. 
   
  Have you seen the Unger one? The bottle stays on your belt and you lift just the trigger and spray. The trigger is attached by some curly tubing.

ive only seen photos of that unger sprayer ,it looks well made and i wonder what it sprays like. downside it looks as though it has a big bottle which would get dangerous up on the ladder. if it 1 litre thats a hefty weight if you carry it all day .
 im using a wagtail flipper as main squeegee with original yellow pad. this holds very little water but iv now got my spray bottle handy. the upside is the yellow pads light on the arm and thats whats important to me .
  [last week i reverted to a regular type applicator and unger zero squeegee just for 1 house and the weight of a fully laden applicator killed my arm in no time  ]

It is bulky and sits on your belt, not in a pouch, which I didn`t really like.
 The bottle is big but you don`t have to fill it. It is secure on your belt though.
 It`s not the best sprayer either and overall, I wouldn`t go over the top about it  . 

[dazmond]

mike the 50l p/f trolley comes with 10m of hose already.i will get a reel as well.i just want enough to be able to clean 2 houses back and front with the trolley in the middle of them.

[geefree]

pulled up yesterday to clean a house... i have a van mount...

whipped my pole out from the holders on the ceiling inside the van, pulled my hose from the static , bolted reel in the van and off i went washing away,

At the same time another guy i know pulled up with his van, .. humped his trolley out then started filling it from 25l container.... by now i had done the front...

went  and did the back of the house and came back ..finished ! reeled in my hose shut the doors.

he was still on the front upstairs next door.... as i drove off i thought to myself, poor bugger... he will have had to then hump his trolley back into the van and mess about filling it up for next cleans etc....

been there , done that with a back pack and 25l containers.

when i got the van mount my life suddenly became so much easier,

My experience of both !

my backpack would have already been filled before i got to job

by the time you had pulled your hose out i would have been
on the back

thats my point, had the backpack,.. filling and messing with containers, so slow.... nothing easier than pulling a hose out of the van...

[paul rulton]

each 2 there own  : wfp v's wfp  my moneys on wfp  : 

[gary999]

pulled up yesterday to clean a house... i have a van mount...

whipped my pole out from the holders on the ceiling inside the van, pulled my hose from the static , bolted reel in the van and off i went washing away,

At the same time another guy i know pulled up with his van, .. humped his trolley out then started filling it from 25l container.... by now i had done the front...

went  and did the back of the house and came back ..finished ! reeled in my hose shut the doors.

he was still on the front upstairs next door.... as i drove off i thought to myself, poor bugger... he will have had to then hump his trolley back into the van and mess about filling it up for next cleans etc....

been there , done that with a back pack and 25l containers.

when i got the van mount my life suddenly became so much easier,

My experience of both !

my backpack would have already been filled before i got to job

by the time you had pulled your hose out i would have been
on the back

thats my point, had the backpack,.. filling and messing with containers, so slow.... nothing easier than pulling a hose out of the van...

yep your right much easier turn system on pullout hose gets snagged
under car wheel ::)go back and free it keep pulling pole hose out then
gets snagged on garden gate or on corner of house ,oops you have just
knocked plant pots over then some silly arse bleeder parks on it or
some neighbours kids come out and decide to play tug of war with it.oh
yeah the classic dragging 50 mtrs of hose through dog crap

just some of the things that drove me crazy but yep your right
hassle free

[mark dew]

I'd still recommend the back pack and fishing trolley over the expensive (and heavy) 50L trolley.
 

dazmond, i've been on the opposite side of the fence to tosh many a time with the trolley backpack posts. But with the set up you have mentioned i would agree with tosh on this 1.
Ive used a mark 1 freedom trolley for 4 years now. Still going strong. I use it as a van mount mostly, but detatch it for certain jobs. I still think a trolley is a great investment. 50 litres isn't that much heavier than 25 litres as that other bloke said. It is 25kg heavier. Plus the weight of the barrel. Way too heavy to drag around on any kind of trolley.
You are better off with a backpack. If you had decided on a backpack you would have had it months now and be quite proficient by now.
A van mount is almost everytime the best bit of kit for the job. Quicker, easier and less strain on the body. I have some properties that are quicker with a trolley. But much easier pulling out a hose.