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Title: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: reach&clean on March 14, 2010, 07:06:43 pm
i have a 40 40 system, my resin is uesed after the tank. i have two ten inch filters and a 40 inch r o filter, the 2 10 inch filters were changed about 3000 Lt ago and not sure when the r o  filter was changed,  i checked the water in the tank today as it was filling and it was reading 50 ppm how can i tell if its the r o filter or the 2 10 inch ones?     can anyone help
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: paul rulton on March 14, 2010, 09:30:56 pm
think im gonna b at that stage soon..... but dont know how u tell wot ones 2 change ??? ??? ???
help please ;D
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on March 14, 2010, 09:36:28 pm
whos pinched ya name laddie  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: paul rulton on March 14, 2010, 09:43:09 pm
whos pinched ya name laddie  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
its ok lammy he's me m8 ;D he's like u he nics names2 ;D can any 1 help on this??????
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: easycleaner on March 14, 2010, 10:32:41 pm
50 ppm sounds high. Whats your tap reading?
It sounds like the ro 2 me.
I'd phone someone like pure freedom they deal with these day in day out, they should be able to help, just ask them.
Mart.
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: d s windowcleaning on March 14, 2010, 11:18:00 pm
just change your pre filters if the tds will come down and for what they cost it wont harm owt .
with a membrane thats getting gloged your water production will slow down , if pre filters are changed regular your membrane will last longer .
have you ever backflushed your membrane with pure water ?
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: reach&clean on March 15, 2010, 08:56:17 am
thanks for the advise, my tap water is 450ppm and my fill time has increased, cant say when the r o was changed but the pre filters were done about 3 months ago
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: reach&clean on March 15, 2010, 06:47:59 pm
changed my pre filters and even added another pre filter and back washed the r o now the reading is 350ppm NOW IM CONFUSED it was 50ppm before i changed the pre filters ,,,,,, how can this be and what to do to sort it out.
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: Window Washers on March 15, 2010, 06:58:02 pm
i have a 40 40 system, my resin is uesed after the tank. i have two ten inch filters and a 40 inch r o filter, the 2 10 inch filters were changed about 3000 Lt ago and not sure when the r o  filter was changed,  i checked the water in the tank today as it was filling and it was reading 50 ppm how can i tell if its the r o filter or the 2 10 inch ones?     can anyone help
Wash out the filter housings as the could well be mucked up inside, this will help a little, normally when the prefilters are used they slow down the production, have you noticed this ?
When was the last time you flushed the system and when you did , did this bring the tds down if so how long for ?
What are you measuring the tds with, (inline or hand held) which ever when was this calibrated last ?

Can be many many reason why this is happening but can be solved removing each cause inline.
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: reach&clean on March 15, 2010, 07:21:01 pm
i didnt wash out the housings so will do that, i have noticed a ruduction in how much water i have been getting, i flushed the r o today then i changed the pre filters and then tried it and it came out at 350ppm when before i flushed it and changed the pre filters it was going into the tank at 50ppm so i am not sure why this is. i dont want to replace the r o filter until i know why this is happening as dont want to burn out the r o.
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: d s windowcleaning on March 15, 2010, 09:14:11 pm
whats the 10 inch filters you are using ?
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: Window Washers on March 16, 2010, 12:03:10 am
i didnt wash out the housings so will do that, i have noticed a ruduction in how much water i have been getting, i flushed the r o today then i changed the pre filters and then tried it and it came out at 350ppm when before i flushed it and changed the pre filters it was going into the tank at 50ppm so i am not sure why this is. i dont want to replace the r o filter until i know why this is happening as dont want to burn out the r o.
you do know you have to flush the pre filters without connecting to the di vessal, as iron filing will kill the resin very quick.

when you changed the pre filters did the producion speed up ?
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: reach&clean on March 16, 2010, 06:55:47 pm
the 10 inch filters are pre filters, i spoke to pure freedom today and have been told what the problem is.  i was told to change the pre filters and backwash the r o unit by connecting the water mains to the outlet of the r o and backwash it like that and by doing this i have killed the r o membrain as i have now been told that the r o membrain should never come into contact with water that hasnt been through the pre filters so ordered one now,,,,     thanks for all the help lads
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: d s windowcleaning on March 16, 2010, 09:46:54 pm
the 10 inch filters are pre filters, i spoke to pure freedom today and have been told what the problem is.  i was told to change the pre filters and backwash the r o unit by connecting the water mains to the outlet of the r o and backwash it like that and by doing this i have killed the r o membrain as i have now been told that the r o membrain should never come into contact with water that hasnt been through the pre filters so ordered one now,,,,     thanks for all the help lads
which are the pre filters you are using , and in what order ?
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: reach&clean on March 18, 2010, 06:39:53 pm
i have now brought 2 new american pre filters and a new american r o membrain and have flushed them through with the waste valve fully open for about an hour and a bit and still cant get the ppm below 85 and have now starting to give up and wonder if its all worth it. as much as i think wfp system is good and cleans great i am now starting to get fed up with the whole thing.....  ( cant be this hard to get it to work as there is nothing left to replace.
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: rg1 on March 18, 2010, 07:16:52 pm
Its possible that you are getting false readings. This would happen if the batteries in your TDS meter need changing.
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: reach&clean on March 18, 2010, 09:11:51 pm
thanks for that, will replace them and try again.
Title: Re: how can i tell what filters to change
Post by: reach&clean on March 19, 2010, 03:41:41 pm
i was asked to refit the r o membrain inserting the end with the rubber seal last and this did bring my ppm down from 150 to 50 and have now flushed it through for two hours more and still cant get it lower than 50 ppm is this ok or is it still to high to go through the ressin.

i have borrowed my friend tds metre whist i try this as i need to replace my batteries in mine.